Thursday 15 November 2012

Ron Paul Says Farewell and gives his thoughts of the issue of "secession"

Dr. Ron Paul's farewell speech to congress is a reminder of all the things we are fighting against and points a very direct finger to some of the greatest issues that currently face America.  I think that many years from now, Ron Paul will be quoted as often as America's Founding Fathers 

On the topic of Dr Paul, I think his comments with regards to the petitions in the Whitehouse site for the secession of the States- now all 50 are represented in petition form- need to be heard.  The ignorant masses are rumbling, ranting & raving that anyone signing one of these petitions should have their American citizenship taken away, be tried for treason, tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered, and any number of other ridiculous punishments exercised upon them for exercising their right to free speech. Ron's words remind America that the original 13 colonies SECEDED from the controlling British Empire!  He reminds the public that Americans cheered when various nation states SECEDED from the USSR and then the Russian federation.  

Will the individual states leave Corporate USA?  I don't know, and to be frank, the need for them to leave should be taken care of very soon.  BUT, what we are witnessing is the greatest movement of patriotism and constitutionalism the American public has ever witnessed.  At this moment hundreds of thousands of Americans are voicing their anger and distrust and frustration with the Federal Government.  The main stream media is following the growth of these petitions all over the world and even US media outlets are commenting on it!!  This is HUGE!

We the People are finally standing up and making a statement.

Last night the totals of the signatures on all the petitions were at 749,459.  At 10pm est last night they were averaging 1000 signatures a MINUTE.  If the rate of addition of signatures had stayed the same, we would see 1,440,000 signatures every 24 hours.  Unfortunately at this point the totals are no longer available- whether it is through tampering or just logistics, we don't know- but you can follow these petitions HERE.

It is time for ALL PEOPLE world wide to stand up and demand that their voice be heard.  

Congressman Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress

Full Transcript:

This may well be the last time I speak on the House Floor. At the end of the year I’ll leave Congress after 23 years in office over a 36 year period. My goals in 1976 were the same as they are today: promote peace and prosperity by a strict adherence to the principles of individual liberty.

It was my opinion, that the course the U.S. embarked on in the latter part of the 20th Century would bring us a major financial crisis and engulf us in a foreign policy that would overextend us and undermine our national security.

To achieve the goals I sought, government would have had to shrink in size and scope, reduce spending, change the monetary system, and reject the unsustainable costs of policing the world and expanding the American Empire.

The problems seemed to be overwhelming and impossible to solve, yet from my view point, just following the constraints placed on the federal government by the Constitution would have been a good place to start.

 How Much Did I Accomplish?

In many ways, according to conventional wisdom, my off-and-on career in Congress, from 1976 to 2012, accomplished very little. No named legislation, no named federal buildings or highways—thank goodness. In spite of my efforts, the government has grown exponentially, taxes remain excessive, and the prolific increase of incomprehensible regulations continues. Wars are constant and pursued without Congressional declaration, deficits rise to the sky, poverty is rampant and dependency on the federal government is now worse than any time in our history.

All this with minimal concerns for the deficits and unfunded liabilities that common sense tells us cannot go on much longer. A grand, but never mentioned, bipartisan agreement allows for the well-kept secret that keeps the spending going. One side doesn’t give up one penny on military spending, the other side doesn’t give up one penny on welfare spending, while both sides support the bailouts and subsidies for the banking and corporate elite. And the spending continues as the economy weakens and the downward spiral continues. As the government continues fiddling around, our liberties and our wealth burn in the flames of a foreign policy that makes us less safe.

The major stumbling block to real change in Washington is the total resistance to admitting that the country is broke. This has made compromising, just to agree to increase spending, inevitable since neither side has any intention of cutting spending.

The country and the Congress will remain divisive since there’s no “loot left to divvy up.”

Without this recognition the spenders in Washington will continue the march toward a fiscal cliff much bigger than the one anticipated this coming January.

I have thought a lot about why those of us who believe in liberty, as a solution, have done so poorly in convincing others of its benefits. If liberty is what we claim it is- the principle that protects all personal, social and economic decisions necessary for maximum prosperity and the best chance for peace- it should be an easy sell. Yet, history has shown that the masses have been quite receptive to the promises of authoritarians which are rarely if ever fulfilled.

Authoritarianism vs. Liberty

If authoritarianism leads to poverty and war and less freedom for all individuals and is controlled by rich special interests, the people should be begging for liberty. There certainly was a strong enough sentiment for more freedom at the time of our founding that motivated those who were willing to fight in the revolution against the powerful British government.

During my time in Congress the appetite for liberty has been quite weak; the understanding of its significance negligible. Yet the good news is that compared to 1976 when I first came to Congress, the desire for more freedom and less government in 2012 is much greater and growing, especially in grassroots America. Tens of thousands of teenagers and college age students are, with great enthusiasm, welcoming the message of liberty.

I have a few thoughts as to why the people of a country like ours, once the freest and most prosperous, allowed the conditions to deteriorate to the degree that they have.

Freedom, private property, and enforceable voluntary contracts, generate wealth. In our early history we were very much aware of this. But in the early part of the 20th century our politicians promoted the notion that the tax and monetary systems had to change if we were to involve ourselves in excessive domestic and military spending. That is why Congress gave us the Federal Reserve and the income tax. The majority of Americans and many government officials agreed that sacrificing some liberty was necessary to carry out what some claimed to be “progressive” ideas. Pure democracy became acceptable.

They failed to recognized that what they were doing was exactly opposite of what the colonists were seeking when they broke away from the British.

Some complain that my arguments makes no sense, since great wealth and the standard of living improved for many Americans over the last 100 years, even with these new policies.

But the damage to the market economy, and the currency, has been insidious and steady. It took a long time to consume our wealth, destroy the currency and undermine productivity and get our financial obligations to a point of no return. Confidence sometimes lasts longer than deserved. Most of our wealth today depends on debt.

The wealth that we enjoyed and seemed to be endless, allowed concern for the principle of a free society to be neglected. As long as most people believed the material abundance would last forever, worrying about protecting a competitive productive economy and individual liberty seemed unnecessary.

 The Age of Redistribution

This neglect ushered in an age of redistribution of wealth by government kowtowing to any and all special interests, except for those who just wanted to left alone. That is why today money in politics far surpasses money currently going into research and development and productive entrepreneurial efforts.

The material benefits became more important than the understanding and promoting the principles of liberty and a free market. It is good that material abundance is a result of liberty but if materialism is all that we care about, problems are guaranteed.

The crisis arrived because the illusion that wealth and prosperity would last forever has ended. Since it was based on debt and a pretense that debt can be papered over by an out-of-control fiat monetary system, it was doomed to fail. We have ended up with a system that doesn’t produce enough even to finance the debt and no fundamental understanding of why a free society is crucial to reversing these trends.

If this is not recognized, the recovery will linger for a long time. Bigger government, more spending, more debt, more poverty for the middle class, and a more intense scramble by the elite special interests will continue.

 We Need an Intellectual Awakening

Without an intellectual awakening, the turning point will be driven by economic law. A dollar crisis will bring the current out-of-control system to its knees.

If it’s not accepted that big government, fiat money, ignoring liberty, central economic planning, welfarism, and warfarism caused our crisis we can expect a continuous and dangerous march toward corporatism and even fascism with even more loss of our liberties. Prosperity for a large middle class though will become an abstract dream.

This continuous move is no different than what we have seen in how our financial crisis of 2008 was handled. Congress first directed, with bipartisan support, bailouts for the wealthy. Then it was the Federal Reserve with its endless quantitative easing. If at first it doesn’t succeed try again; QE1, QE2, and QE3 and with no results we try QE indefinitely—that is until it too fails. There’s a cost to all of this and let me assure you delaying the payment is no longer an option. The rules of the market will extract its pound of flesh and it won’t be pretty.

The current crisis elicits a lot of pessimism. And the pessimism adds to less confidence in the future. The two feed on themselves, making our situation worse.

If the underlying cause of the crisis is not understood we cannot solve our problems. The issues of warfare, welfare, deficits, inflationism, corporatism, bailouts and authoritarianism cannot be ignored. By only expanding these policies we cannot expect good results.

Everyone claims support for freedom. But too often it’s for one’s own freedom and not for others. Too many believe that there must be limits on freedom. They argue that freedom must be directed and managed to achieve fairness and equality thus making it acceptable to curtail, through force, certain liberties.

Some decide what and whose freedoms are to be limited. These are the politicians whose goal in life is power. Their success depends on gaining support from special interests.

 No More ‘isms’

The great news is the answer is not to be found in more “isms.” The answers are to be found in more liberty which cost so much less. Under these circumstances spending goes down, wealth production goes up, and the quality of life improves.

Just this recognition—especially if we move in this direction—increases optimism which in itself is beneficial. The follow through with sound policies are required which must be understood and supported by the people.

But there is good evidence that the generation coming of age at the present time is supportive of moving in the direction of more liberty and self-reliance. The more this change in direction and the solutions become known, the quicker will be the return of optimism.

Our job, for those of us who believe that a different system than the one that we have had for the last 100 years, has driven us to this unsustainable crisis, is to be more convincing that there is a wonderful, uncomplicated, and moral system that provides the answers. We had a taste of it in our early history. We need not give up on the notion of advancing this cause.

It worked, but we allowed our leaders to concentrate on the material abundance that freedom generates, while ignoring freedom itself. Now we have neither, but the door is open, out of necessity, for an answer. The answer available is based on the Constitution, individual liberty and prohibiting the use of government force to provide privileges and benefits to all special interests.

After over 100 years we face a society quite different from the one that was intended by the Founders. In many ways their efforts to protect future generations with the Constitution from this danger has failed. Skeptics, at the time the Constitution was written in 1787, warned us of today’s possible outcome. The insidious nature of the erosion of our liberties and the reassurance our great abundance gave us, allowed the process to evolve into the dangerous period in which we now live.

 Dependency on Government Largesse

Today we face a dependency on government largesse for almost every need. Our liberties are restricted and government operates outside the rule of law, protecting and rewarding those who buy or coerce government into satisfying their demands. Here are a few examples:

  • Undeclared wars are commonplace.
  • Welfare for the rich and poor is considered an entitlement.
  • The economy is overregulated, overtaxed and grossly distorted by a deeply flawed monetary system.
  • Debt is growing exponentially.
  • The Patriot Act and FISA legislation passed without much debate have resulted in a steady erosion of our 4th Amendment rights.
  • Tragically our government engages in preemptive war, otherwise known as aggression, with no complaints from the American people.
  • The drone warfare we are pursuing worldwide is destined to end badly for us as the hatred builds for innocent lives lost and the international laws flaunted. Once we are financially weakened and militarily challenged, there will be a lot resentment thrown our way.
  • It’s now the law of the land that the military can arrest American citizens, hold them indefinitely, without charges or a trial.
  • Rampant hostility toward free trade is supported by a large number in Washington.
  • Supporters of sanctions, currency manipulation and WTO trade retaliation, call the true free traders “isolationists.”
  • Sanctions are used to punish countries that don’t follow our orders.
  • Bailouts and guarantees for all kinds of misbehavior are routine.
  • Central economic planning through monetary policy, regulations and legislative mandates has been an acceptable policy.


Excessive government has created such a mess it prompts many questions:

  • Why are sick people who use medical marijuana put in prison?
  • Why does the federal government restrict the drinking of raw milk?
  • Why can’t Americans manufacturer rope and other products from hemp?
  • Why are Americans not allowed to use gold and silver as legal tender as mandated by the Constitution?
  • Why is Germany concerned enough to consider repatriating their gold held by the FED for her in New York? Is it that the trust in the U.S. and dollar supremacy beginning to wane?
  • Why do our political leaders believe it’s unnecessary to thoroughly audit our own gold?
  • Why can’t Americans decide which type of light bulbs they can buy?
  • Why is the TSA permitted to abuse the rights of any American traveling by air?
  • Why should there be mandatory sentences—even up to life for crimes without victims—as our drug laws require?
  • Why have we allowed the federal government to regulate commodes in our homes?
  • Why is it political suicide for anyone to criticize AIPAC ?
  • Why haven’t we given up on the drug war since it’s an obvious failure and violates the people’s rights? Has nobody noticed that the authorities can’t even keep drugs out of the prisons? How can making our entire society a prison solve the problem?
  • Why do we sacrifice so much getting needlessly involved in border disputes and civil strife around the world and ignore the root cause of the most deadly border in the world-the one between Mexico and the US?
  • Why does Congress willingly give up its prerogatives to the Executive Branch?
  • Why does changing the party in power never change policy? Could it be that the views of both parties are essentially the same?
  • Why did the big banks, the large corporations, and foreign banks and foreign central banks get bailed out in 2008 and the middle class lost their jobs and their homes?
  • Why do so many in the government and the federal officials believe that creating money out of thin air creates wealth?
  • Why do so many accept the deeply flawed principle that government bureaucrats and politicians can protect us from ourselves without totally destroying the principle of liberty?
  • Why can’t people understand that war always destroys wealth and liberty?
  • Why is there so little concern for the Executive Order that gives the President authority to establish a “kill list,” including American citizens, of those targeted for assassination?
  • Why is patriotism thought to be blind loyalty to the government and the politicians who run it, rather than loyalty to the principles of liberty and support for the people? Real patriotism is a willingness to challenge the government when it’s wrong.
  • Why is it is claimed that if people won’t or can’t take care of their own needs, that people in government can do it for them?
  • Why did we ever give the government a safe haven for initiating violence against the people?
  • Why do some members defend free markets, but not civil liberties?
  • Why do some members defend civil liberties but not free markets? Aren’t they the same?
  • Why don’t more defend both economic liberty and personal liberty?
  • Why are there not more individuals who seek to intellectually influence others to bring about positive changes than those who seek power to force others to obey their commands?
  • Why does the use of religion to support a social gospel and preemptive wars, both of which requires authoritarians to use violence, or the threat of violence, go unchallenged? Aggression and forced redistribution of wealth has nothing to do with the teachings of the world great religions.
  • Why do we allow the government and the Federal Reserve to disseminate false information dealing with both economic and foreign policy?
  • Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority?
  • Why should anyone be surprised that Congress has no credibility, since there’s such a disconnect between what politicians say and what they do?
  • Is there any explanation for all the deception, the unhappiness, the fear of the future, the loss of confidence in our leaders, the distrust, the anger and frustration? Yes there is, and there’s a way to reverse these attitudes. The negative perceptions are logical and a consequence of bad policies bringing about our problems. Identification of the problems and recognizing the cause allow the proper changes to come easy.

Trust Yourself, Not the Government

Too many people have for too long placed too much confidence and trust in government and not enough in themselves. Fortunately, many are now becoming aware of the seriousness of the gross mistakes of the past several decades. The blame is shared by both political parties. Many Americans now are demanding to hear the plain truth of things and want the demagoguing to stop. Without this first step, solutions are impossible.

Seeking the truth and finding the answers in liberty and self-reliance promotes the optimism necessary for restoring prosperity. The task is not that difficult if politics doesn’t get in the way.

We have allowed ourselves to get into such a mess for various reasons.

Politicians deceive themselves as to how wealth is produced. Excessive confidence is placed in the judgment of politicians and bureaucrats. This replaces the confidence in a free society. Too many in high places of authority became convinced that only they, armed with arbitrary government power, can bring about fairness, while facilitating wealth production. This always proves to be a utopian dream and destroys wealth and liberty. It impoverishes the people and rewards the special interests who end up controlling both political parties.

It’s no surprise then that much of what goes on in Washington is driven by aggressive partisanship and power seeking, with philosophic differences being minor.

 Economic Ignorance

Economic ignorance is commonplace. Keynesianism continues to thrive, although today it is facing healthy and enthusiastic rebuttals. Believers in military Keynesianism and domestic Keynesianism continue to desperately promote their failed policies, as the economy languishes in a deep slumber.

Supporters of all government edicts use humanitarian arguments to justify them.

Humanitarian arguments are always used to justify government mandates related to the economy, monetary policy, foreign policy, and personal liberty. This is on purpose to make it more difficult to challenge. But, initiating violence for humanitarian reasons is still violence. Good intentions are no excuse and are just as harmful as when people use force with bad intentions. The results are always negative.

The immoral use of force is the source of man’s political problems. Sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations, and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world. Even when the desired goals are well-intentioned—or especially when well-intentioned—the results are dismal. The good results sought never materialize. The new problems created require even more government force as a solution. The net result is institutionalizing government initiated violence and morally justifying it on humanitarian grounds.

This is the same fundamental reason our government uses force for invading other countries at will, central economic planning at home, and the regulation of personal liberty and habits of our citizens.

It is rather strange, that unless one has a criminal mind and no respect for other people and their property, no one claims it’s permissible to go into one’s neighbor’s house and tell them how to behave, what they can eat, smoke and drink or how to spend their money.

Yet, rarely is it asked why it is morally acceptable that a stranger with a badge and a gun can do the same thing in the name of law and order. Any resistance is met with brute force, fines, taxes, arrests, and even imprisonment. This is done more frequently every day without a proper search warrant.

 No Government Monopoly over Initiating Violence

Restraining aggressive behavior is one thing, but legalizing a government monopoly for initiating aggression can only lead to exhausting liberty associated with chaos, anger and the breakdown of civil society. Permitting such authority and expecting saintly behavior from the bureaucrats and the politicians is a pipe dream. We now have a standing army of armed bureaucrats in the TSA, CIA, FBI, Fish and Wildlife, FEMA, IRS, Corp of Engineers, etc. numbering over 100,000. Citizens are guilty until proven innocent in the unconstitutional administrative courts.

Government in a free society should have no authority to meddle in social activities or the economic transactions of individuals. Nor should government meddle in the affairs of other nations. All things peaceful, even when controversial, should be permitted.

We must reject the notion of prior restraint in economic activity just we do in the area of free speech and religious liberty. But even in these areas government is starting to use a backdoor approach of political correctness to regulate speech-a dangerous trend. Since 9/11 monitoring speech on the internet is now a problem since warrants are no longer required.

 The Proliferation of Federal Crimes

The Constitution established four federal crimes. Today the experts can’t even agree on how many federal crimes are now on the books—they number into the thousands. No one person can comprehend the enormity of the legal system—especially the tax code. Due to the ill-advised drug war and the endless federal expansion of the criminal code we have over 6 million people under correctional suspension, more than the Soviets ever had, and more than any other nation today, including China. I don’t understand the complacency of the Congress and the willingness to continue their obsession with passing more Federal laws. Mandatory sentencing laws associated with drug laws have compounded our prison problems.

The federal register is now 75,000 pages long and the tax code has 72,000 pages, and expands every year. When will the people start shouting, “enough is enough,” and demand Congress cease and desist.

Achieving Liberty

Liberty can only be achieved when government is denied the aggressive use of force. If one seeks liberty, a precise type of government is needed. To achieve it, more than lip service is required.

Two choices are available.

  1. A government designed to protect liberty—a natural right—as its sole objective. The people are expected to care for themselves and reject the use of any force for interfering with another person’s liberty. Government is given a strictly limited authority to enforce contracts, property ownership, settle disputes, and defend against foreign aggression.
  2. A government that pretends to protect liberty but is granted power to arbitrarily use force over the people and foreign nations. Though the grant of power many times is meant to be small and limited, it inevitably metastasizes into an omnipotent political cancer. This is the problem for which the world has suffered throughout the ages. Though meant to be limited it nevertheless is a 100% sacrifice of a principle that would-be-tyrants find irresistible. It is used vigorously—though incrementally and insidiously. Granting power to government officials always proves the adage that: “power corrupts.”
Once government gets a limited concession for the use of force to mold people habits and plan the economy, it causes a steady move toward tyrannical government. Only a revolutionary spirit can reverse the process and deny to the government this arbitrary use of aggression. There’s no in-between. Sacrificing a little liberty for imaginary safety always ends badly.

Today’s mess is a result of Americans accepting option #2, even though the Founders attempted to give us Option #1.

The results are not good. As our liberties have been eroded our wealth has been consumed. The wealth we see today is based on debt and a foolish willingness on the part of foreigners to take our dollars for goods and services. They then loan them back to us to perpetuate our debt system. It’s amazing that it has worked for this long but the impasse in Washington, in solving our problems indicate that many are starting to understand the seriousness of the world -wide debt crisis and the dangers we face. The longer this process continues the harsher the outcome will be.

 The Financial Crisis Is a Moral Crisis

Many are now acknowledging that a financial crisis looms but few understand it’s, in reality, a moral crisis. It’s the moral crisis that has allowed our liberties to be undermined and permits the exponential growth of illegal government power. Without a clear understanding of the nature of the crisis it will be difficult to prevent a steady march toward tyranny and the poverty that will accompany it.

Ultimately, the people have to decide which form of government they want; option #1 or option #2. There is no other choice. Claiming there is a choice of a “little” tyranny is like describing pregnancy as a “touch of pregnancy.” It is a myth to believe that a mixture of free markets and government central economic planning is a worthy compromise. What we see today is a result of that type of thinking. And the results speak for themselves.


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  1. When you say "The ignorant masses are rumbling, ranting & raving" about the petitions, you're obviously talking about left-wing whiner/losers like liberals, socialists and commie thugs, correct?

    1. didn't know that BTS is one of these "left-wing whiner/losers like liberals, socialists and commie thugs"

  2. I love anonymous commenters that flex their asinine imbecility in public view. I especially like those comments that hide behind their "Anonymous" security blanket, flailing around, calling names and throwing insults on topics they obviously don't understand, like a couple of children calling another kid booger-face and yelling that he has the coodies. You are both (or perhaps there is just one of you and you're creating your own dialogue out of fear that no one else will play with you?), an excellent example of the failure of our educational system and the victory of the Cabal to dumb down the public into ignoramus dullards, capable of only parroting the rhetoric of the mass media.
    But you go right ahead. I'm in a particularly bad mood today and can use the excuse to work out some of my frustration in a bout of cathartic writing to chastise the morons that feel the need to poke the tiger.

    In the immortal words of Dirty Harry: "Go ahead, Make my day"

    1. Obviously, there is truth to the question above, or it wouldn't have touched a nerve with you! Seems like a very accurate observation to me.

    2. if you find it to be an accurate observation it just goes to show that you don't know me even slightly, and/or you do not understand the topic under discussion. Either way, your comment is irrelevant and absurd.

    3. It's not just one of me. And you're right...I/we don't know you at all. You, yourself post under a pseudonym and all we know about you is what you post. And what good would it do if I posted under my name? There are thousands out there with my name. My name is Eric...Maybe.

      Poking the tiger is kind of fun, and since, in this case, there is no cage out of which the tiger can jump and maul me I can poke all I want until the tiger just lays there and no longer gives me the reaction I want.

      "Partisan hack" hehehe, you're a funny guy Mik. Yeah I could always use more intelligence.

      All in all I'm a little surprised u even dignified this "asinine imbecility" with a response.

    4. I wonder how much you're paid by the Nazis, 10:15. Better than a McDonald's gig, I assume - neither require much in the way of creativity. Get some new material.

  3. Anon I strongly suggest you quit being such a partisan hack and work on your intelligence. Your absurd partisan ad hominem attacks are the epitome of foolishness.

    "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people."
    - Eleanor Roosevelt

    "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something."
    - Plato

    1. Mik the Wise Man,

      Who are the "ignorant masses ranting and raving" about the petitions being signed if not the sorry fools on the left? Are you trying to tell us that conservatives and independents are the ones who want Americans stripped of their citizenship for signing? Don't make us laugh. Those are the signs of left-wing thuggery, not from the right.

      Don't be so clueless.

  4. One should approach these secession petitions with skepticism, since the same method and means appear to have been used to divide the country in the 19th century antebellum period. It appears there were international forces at work to stimulate the country into discord and division then, and they are doing the same thing now. One should extrememly cautious about stepping into this civil war rhetoric.

    1. Wrong.

      Awareness that more and more people are speaking to the criminality of the bankers and dark cabal can only build more confidence and momentum to change the system and get rid of these parasites. Shine the light on these criminals using every method available. That includes sending messages through petitions. Who are the people acting out so violently that they want people deported? Tell me that.

  5. I don't know precisely. But does anyone know who are the parties who voiced the call for signatures on these petitions?

    Do you know the answer to this question? If you don't, you should be careful because there are powers in this world that are beyond the understanding of most people at the present time. They would not hesitiate, it appears, to start something like this. AS I say, they seem to have done it in the past. There is evidence for this.

  6. 11:08 you sit back in your couch and do nothing....isnt this how America got into this mess to begin with? The no can do attitude its somebody elses problem. I would prefer my country to be split apart and not be the same country at all instead of it being controlled by thieving murdering psycopaths.

    11:32 you are spot on!

    Time is up for the parasites!

  7. Yeah BTS I know why you are frustrated. You don't have to tell me why. If we can't have peace, prosperity and freedom, then why bother living in this $%$% hole. I'm frustrated too. I'm working a job I hate (that is killing me) for breadcrumbs mainly because of the pressure of my sheeple family members and because I can't own my own home (I'm broke).

    This RV (global reset) should have happened dozens of time already. China, Russia and the US want this done, but the crooked IMF is holding it up. Big surprise. Who are the owners of the IMF? Yeah, those beautiful central bankers.

    This is really PATHETIC!!! I mean today is November 15, 2012 and still the prison planet is alive and well. I wonder what happened to influx of "light" that was supposed to transform this prison into an utopia.

    We are so pathetic that the prophesy of December 21, 2012 is around the corner and our lives still suck because we are so stupid and moronic that we can't take care of our own problems and defeat a couple of old men in black suits.

    It is said that this 5 day window from the 15-20 of this month this thing should happen. If it doesn't, I think we will have a clue of what is really going on regardless what Poof or any other "intel people" say.

    A voice inside my head told me on October 24, 2012 that this was going to happen in less than a month.

    The month is almost up. Maybe the timeline changed since then:) This planet truly does stink!!!

    If we can't have it for ourselves and "ascension" is just a silly dream, blow this thing up. Let our souls start again in another place. I'm tired of this crap.

    1. most of us just like you...and i am with You my darling...please don't give up...i have been waiting for better life, most of my life, on both sides of "systems" hehe! LoL!... and working just to survive...LoL! (with this b****t education)...i know in my heart, the divine plan is a perfect plan!...and good times are rolling!...we'll be dancing...for now, be well...withLove~inLight All is Well....Kiss! ~chinka~

    2. Thanks Chinka for the kind words:) God bless you:) Don't worry, I'm not going to commit suicide or anything like that, but I'm tired like a lot of people.

      Something good NEED to happen by next week period. No more excuses or BS.

    3. Is happening!...i feel it in my heart...Be of good thoughts... and God bless You(*_*)Kiss! ~chinka~

    4. ... It's not the IMF holding it up ;>) hang in there guy.

      and actually most of my current frustration isn't RV related. Our family is also living in the same situation as you, and many billions of others. Frustration is eating the lining of my stomach and giving me killer migraines.

      ....we are damn close. you have no idea.....

    5. Dear Anon @12:57,
      I feel the same way. I've been praying it all happens before Thanksgiving. The waiting has been so hard; it's eating me alive as well. Sleep is hard to come by and I cry sometimes (a lot...since the elections) because it's the only way I'm able to release the pain. We have to stick together and help each other and help our neighbors when the time comes.
      All I know is that I'll never give up the fight no matter what happens. I'll go down fighting if I have to because I will never be a slave.
      A special thanks to you BTS for answering me.
      God bless all patriots!
      live oak

  8. Why would we be petitioning the government for this it makes no sense

    1. you are right- petitioning the government for this IS useless. But putting any petition on the whitehouse site is pretty much completely useless. no, the amazing thing is that:
      a) the public are standing up and voicing their opinion
      b) the main stream media is covering it.

      those two things alone make it worth every signature.


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