Freedom
Reigns/OPPT-IN
Monday, April 22,
2013 (USA)
Tuesday, April
23, 2013 (AEST)
Note: Please be aware that the
transcription team has fully transcribed only the last 60 minutes of this show.
The first 90 minutes of this show involved Lisa, Chris, Bob, and Brian
reminiscing on the chronological history of OPPT and their personal feelings
and journeys with OPPT.
In lieu of transcribing these
first 90 minutes, please read below the show summary as prepared by GingerSnap
and is posted at Kauliapele’s blog. The transcription team sends a hearty thank
you to Ginger and to KP. Ginger’s full
show summary can be found at:
Ginger’s notes: April 22,2013 Freedom
Reigns/OPPT-IN, with Lisa, Chris, Brian, Bob and D at the end:
ALL READERS AND LISTENERS
PLEASE NOTE . . . regarding legal information below all are legal facts. All
the expressed views below, are of the hosts only . . . and none of them are
attempting to convince anyone of anything. Either one resonates with what has
happened and why, or not, and it’s all perfect.
IMPORTANT NOTICE – “OPPT”
is now changing to the “ONE PEOPLE” . . . (is a grass roots movement to change
old system) . . . the “OPPT has been ordered and reconciled, so now in
perpetuity” . . . therefore, the growing body of people around the world
utilizing current tools and educating . . . are now to be known as the “ONE
PEOPLE” . . . and this includes Heather, Caleb, Randall, Lisa, Bob, Brian,
Chris and D on the blog talk radio shows. We are each all referred to as the
One People now – globally – Equally . . . to each choose what we each want . .
. even it has nothing to do with the OPPT docs filed and reconciled, that is
one’s choice and fully honored by Heather, Lisa, Brian and all.
FORMER OPPT/ONE PEOPLE’S
SHORT SUMMARY STORY:
- There is a OPPT/One
People’s short summary story starting last year to date, clarifying terms . . .
what was OPPT?
- About 53 minutes in,
excellent short description of a CVAC.
- About 1hr 13mins in,
about the I/UV Exchange and it shifted our thinking around money and our
human/energy and DNA-value that was placed outside of ourselves (like money,
gold) . . . and bringing it back to WITHIN ourselves . . . that will be
exchanged for what we need among each other (end of monetary system). This is
critical, as it eliminates any more possibility of others being in control over
others. (and note the RV, NESARA, Prosperity plans are just another attempts to
revive the old manipulative controlling system)
- See more excellent short
clarification from Heather and Chris around UCC, CVAC and I/UV Exchange here – http://briankellysblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/heather-tucci-jarraf-chris-hales.html
-
NOTE
on 100th monkey radio, Chris recently shared a very helpful big picture w/lots
of detail, helpful overall view for people new to OPPT/One People story here – http://thehundredthmonkeyradio.com/oppt.html
Full transcript of show from 1:26:30 minutes to
2:30 minutes (last hour of show):
Lisa: As I said earlier, there was a lot of
people, lot of groups, lot of individuals claiming to represent groups that
came forward with offers of enforcement or offers of (inaudible), so prosperity
packages for everybody. Offers of various things. They went through a vetting
process I guess you could say by really just allowing them the space to expose
themselves. They came and went. A lot of them, I think, were lures; this is my
personal opinion on this. I think a lot of them were lures to get OPPT, Heather
and the trustees to act in a certain way and try to trick them into
reactivating the system that they just shut down. Again, that's the way I
looked at it.
Now, the latest one to come on board is the SWISSINDO group. This has
been going on for some time. Brian's the one who can speak to this, because
Brian's the one who's been the most involved. I've been on the sidelines
keeping myself up to speed as much as possible. What we're looking at is a
group who have acted independently, based on what they saw in those filings.
They believe that those filings are giving them the empowerment to act. They're
doing what we're all doing. Supporting the work that's been done. Doing
whatever enforcement they can. Our enforcement came out of things like the
Courtesy Notices and just BE'ing and DO'ing was our enforcement. Here we're
looking at a group who claim to have the ability to implement some wide-scale,
serious enforcement. So there's been ... again, it's a matter of ... I know for
me personally, its about sitting back and saying if these guys are who they say
they are and can do what they say they're going to do. Brian, do you want to
step in at that point? (silence) You've got unmute yourself first though.
(silence)
Bob: In the meantime ...
Brian: That would be smart, unmuting myself would be smart. Here I am
starting to ramble and I'm muted. It's been an interesting process to watch
this whole SWISSINDO development unfold from my perspective. It all started
from a phone call that I received asking if I had seen a document drafted by
the alleged representatives of SWISSINDO having my name and email address and
phone number listed as the media contact for the One People's Public Trust. You
can only imagine how much that surprised me at first, being kind of tagged with
the responsibility that I didn't necessarily sign up for, but considering me
being the truthseeker that I am, I looked at it as an opportunity to help tell
the story in the most transparent way possible, which is what I've been trying
to do mostly with my blog in the last week or so with all the information, gosh
over 90 pages worth of it in posts that I put out last week.
One of the first things I had to
do was…I don’t even have any idea who ... I’ve heard of SWISSINDO…I have no
idea who they are. So I had to do a lot of research and a lot of due
diligence. I can only share my
impression and my opinions of the story as it has developed for me
personally. I will be really up front,
which is how I always do it. I’ll just say that I have never had any one-on-one
direct verbal communications with anybody that claims to represent their
group. I’m not involved in any high
level negotiations nor do I even know if there are any high level negotiations
that are even going on based on the way I understand the story has been
told. There are people that are in
communications with the people from SWISSINDO that have been following their
story. One historian that we’re in contact with and following their story for
eight years and she has pages and pages of copious notes and research not even
all that I have completely read through…there is that much of it.
The person that claims to kind of
head up the SWISSINDO Royal Family is a gentleman that goes by the nickname
Sino. He holds the position that is
referred to as the King of Kings and is the number one kind of authority in
these royal families. His order goes a
long way. However, the handlers that have been overseeing the SWISSINDO
operations have done a really good job at suppressing the supposed power that he
has. The way that I understand their
intentions is, that these groups of royal families have been … for a few
hundred years … passing the buck along from generation to generation with the
intention…with the ultimate goal to bring peace and prosperity back to
humanity. Using the instrument of the
Asian gold that they supposedly control, which is supposedly 90% of the known
gold deposits in the world, which have also been suppressed in that part of the
story that I’m still learning as I go.
When the One People’s Public
Trust came around, they looked at all of the documents. They reviewed
everything that they saw and said that this is the element…the ingredient that
has been introduced to the equation…to the landscape that will allow their
lifelong mission that has been passed from generation to generation to be
fulfilled once and for all. The way that
they wanted to do that is release…we made it very clear in one of the documents
that Paula put out that we have no intention ... I’m speaking now to everybody
that is following this story because there is this big idea that has been put
out there that we as the representatives, which we are all just individuals
speaking publicly about what we know to be true, but those of us that speak on
behalf of the One People’s Public Trust, our agenda is to seize the collateral
accounts and highjack them from people that have been trying to get their hands
on them for quite some time and that is absolutely not the case. I think we
have made it very clear over the course of the last few weeks, couple of
months, that the way we want to see this go is that we are ultimately getting
people to the point where they understand their true value is in the energy
that is within themselves. We don’t want their gold. What they are looking for
now is some ceremonial type of event where, like I said, their legacy can be
brought into the light.
The radio show that I did on
Morning Brew last week got a lot of attention; it’s been blogged and
re-blogged. I’ve been quoted as saying some things. The people are wanting me
to elaborate on, so I’ll do the best I can to address some of those things
now. There is a UN Executive Order
#UCC10833 that goes right along with the military order that the One People’s
Public Trust put out, which is for corrupt bankers and politicians or anybody
that is guilty of crimes against humanity to be arrested and to be moved out of
the way so that a new system ... the elements of that new system have yet to be
determined as far as my personal knowledge ... can be launched. That has received both positive and negative
commentary in response. A lot of people
are really concerned about the idea of enacting any military to do anything on
behalf of the people because of the energy that that could perpetrate. So I am going to read something hear real
quickly from my blog and then a couple more things I’ll share and then if we
want to open it up to questions that works as well.
Chris: There is also a couple of things that I need
to put in here Brian if I may?
Brian: Please, go ahead Chris.
Chris: I’ve been somewhat on the fence about
SWISSINDO, because I haven’t really absorbed all of the information that
yourself have and that Paula has. In the
last 24 hours, I’m coming to realize that I need to get off of the fence over
this and here is the reason. If you look
around the landscape of what we can do next, there is nothing ... there is no
other organization that has come forward to offer us anything that was real.
These people have with absolute best intentions jumped in and said okay, there
has been communication, said ‘Right, here is what we are going to do’. They
have issued a document which clearly stated that the system was to be shut
down. There was to be enforcement and that there was to be funding for the
enforcement and for the development of what come next.
I don’t see anyone else jumping
forward to make anything like that and from everything I’ve heard about these
people, they have absolute pure intent.
The reason that they jumped in so quickly…these things take months and
years to organize usually, these sorts of big behind the scene changes…they did
it in weeks because of the way they resonated with what the OPPT’s actions had
done and continue to do. Now, the steps
from here on have, to me, been unclear.
They are starting to become clearer now and I want to speak to that
issue when Brian has finished filling in more details. There is a very specific pair of documents
that we are going…when I say we, I mean myself and all of the other people that
I have been working on this with, some on the panel some not today…are going to
actually put out there.
That is an Oath and Bond for the
One People. One of the things that I see
very clearly now is that…I’ve been having an identity crisis last week, who are
we? What is this group of people? What is this movement? It has become very clear to me that it is the
One People. Now if you look at all of
the attacks on the OPPT this…the OPPT that…they are trying to attack an entity,
because they deal in a world of fictional entities and the OPPT was that, it
was a trust, a man-made fictional entity.
They attack the OPPT, lets’ see if they will come at the One People.
Brian: Yes.
Chris: Okay, are they going to come at the One
People and make ridiculous accusations? I don’t think so. So I want to talk about the Oath and Bond at
the end of this conversation, but I just wanted to insert the idea now that
whatever reservations you might have about this SWISSINDO stuff. I say we give these people our full support
and see where it goes. See how far we can take this because we have to get
major changes over the line and no one else is coming up with any offers or
support for us at this point in time…we get elsewhere.
Lisa: When you say “Us” you’re talking about the
people of the planet?
Chris: I’m talking about “The One People” and when I
say “Us or We” from now on it means “The One People”. What we are talking about here…do you want to
say what is happening here…is the rise of the One People.
Brian: So here is the thing that everybody needs to
understand. The One Peoples Public
Trust…meaning the trustees of the former One Peoples Public Trust, Heather,
Caleb and Randall ... have not signed anything with the SWISSINDO group.
Chris: They actually don’t need to. They had all of
the authority to do what they did to issue that document; that is their
prerogative. I was surprised that there
wasn’t more to and fro, but there has been communication difficulties and language
difficulties at various levels. It’s
just the situation, but what I would like Brian to do is go a little bit more
into the detail of that. So we can bring
it to a conclusion.
Brian: Here is the thing. Part of the reason why I
started my blog was to tell the story as it is being told to me. The SWISSINDO group with this executive order
and what they are doing putting out the call to the Provost Marshals for
enforcement, everybody can see with their own eyes when and if that comes to
fruition. I’m not getting myself
attached to it one way or the other, because I know that at a higher level
everything is by design and everything is going to work out exactly as it was
designed to. If the thing about SWISSINDO dissolves and goes away tomorrow or
tomorrow night, I will not lose one ounce of sleep. For me it’s about detachment and watching the
story as it’s told; watching it as it unfolds.
None of us have the intention of making decisions on behalf of the One
People that are gonna be to the detriment of all of Humanity.
So let me read this real quick
and it will summarize this message that I’m trying to put out here. Then
there’s one more thing that I will say and I’ll pass it over to you,
Chris. A comment that Fulford made on
his post today said that the Pentagon Agency White Hats say they have been
waiting for the legal basis to make a move against the corrupt political
establishment. So, I’ve put out a message out on this post at the
beginning. I said some data to consider
from Fulford: “No need to get caught up
in the energy of fear or worry.
Remaining a conscious witness to story as it unfolds is the only way to
observe the drama without getting caught up in the drama. All is transpiring exactly as it was
designed. For it to be otherwise would
be a contradiction of Universal Law. So
complete detachment from outcome helps us to stay grounded during a time of
perceived chaos. Just remember: at a higher level even chaos is in perfect
order.”
So, you know, there are people
that have been in direct communications with SWISSINDO and with Mr. Sino,
direct. I’ve read the email
conversations. I’ve read a lot that has
caused me to become excited by the idea that there [are] basically a lot more
people now from all over the world on the side of bringing peace and prosperity
to the planet. However, I have no
worry. I’m not concerned whatsoever that
... whatever moves that are being made in the background, that are going to
happen no matter what the One People’s Public Trust or the One People say. They are happening anyway, and they don’t
need anybody’s signature, as far as the Trustees, to allow it to happen. Let’s all watch the story as it unfolds. Ya know?
Lisa: A question, Brian, that keeps coming up in
the chat room from someone is: “If OPPT
foreclosed on everything, why did they not foreclose on the SWISSINDO?”
Brian: Well, here’s the thing. That’s a really good
question. You could say the same thing
about the UN. Well, the Federal Reserve
[and] the United States Government, they have been foreclosed also, right? But if you look on news, it looks as if they
are still in operation, right? The
reason is because people are still paying energy into the idea that they are
still in existence. That’s the only
place that they now still retain any control – is the belief that they are
still legitimate. So once people wake up
to the idea and the understanding, and this could be the ingredient that allows
them to do so, that these organizations and these entities that have been
foreclosed upon, then energy that allows them to perpetuate the energy that
they bring to the people of this planet all of the sudden goes flat, and they
can no longer operate on any level whatsoever.
That’s what I’m hoping for is a result that comes from the potential of
what SWISSINDO is doing. However, I can’t
say this is exactly what’s going to happen, these people are exactly who they
say they are. I’ve seen enough to lead
me to believe that it’s legitimate, but that’s only based on my own assumptions
and my own process of due diligence, which has been pretty extreme to this
point.
Chris: Well that cuts back to the very start of this
show where we said everyone’s expressing their own opinions. We’re Eternal Essence Embodied Without
Limits. We’re entitled to form our own opinions, but we just have to acknowledge
that we’re receiving one another’s opinion. We have to process that information
and decide for ourselves which part if it we want.
As far as the question from the
chat room goes, the actuality of the Trust is they have physical possession of a
very, very large amount of gold, okay?
You strip away the corporate structure from a company, you still have
the building, the people, the equipment, the stock sitting there – physical. Well, it’s the same thing with
SWISSINDO. You’ve got the Trustees – the
caretakers of this enormous asset, which has been used in the financial system
for a very long time for backing, you know, the whole system, at least a very
large part of it. That’s still there. The caretakers – the custodians – are still
acting in their role in their capacity because it’s been a sacred Trust for
them. So that doesn’t really affect the
actuality of what SWISSINDO is. The
fictional aspect – any signed documentation, any structural agreements that
were related around the old statutory law system – they’ve gone, but the
Trustees are still there and the gold is still there. They are the ones who actually have control
over where it goes.
To get back to the commentary
that’s been going about the Provost Marshals and the fact of enforcement: The military orders make it very clear that
this is not an outbreak of military action.
This is actually an outbreak of peace.
You only have to go back to the military order and read it to understand
how that’s structured. Okay?
Lisa: There’s two more things that I want to get to
before the end of the show and we’ve got 10 minutes.
Chris: Yep, okay.
I just need about one or two more minutes. We pushed it out to the Provost Marshals very
simply, because we don’t have the resources, or experience or knowledge, to
actually evaluate the document that SWISSINDO sent down to the degree which
we’d like. The Provost Marshals do. That’s their job. It also serves to notice them that we the One
People know what SWISSINDO is trying to do for us, and we’re putting them on
notice that we require them to act.
So there was two purposes for
putting it back into the system via the Provost Marshals. Because it gets passed down through the
UN. The UN’s a very corrupt place. It’ll be slow. It’ll get blocked. It’ll be in contention. But in the end Mr. Sino, apparently, owns the
UN and owns the UNITED STATES [corporation].
So, it will happen. I’m not sure
of the pace that it will happen at, though, and I’m not sure exactly what we’ll
see when it really kicks in. That’s yet
to be written.
However, the very final thing I
want to talk about is this: the actions
of the OPPT in shutting itself down and literally hand-balling it over to ...
Well, who? Where does the movement
go? You know, who’s in charge? You know, I’ve been struggling with this for
a couple of weeks. Who are we? Where do we go from here? Who’s in charge? The simple answer is that we are what’s
arrived at this point. We’ve actually
found ourselves. We’ve turned up. We are the One People. The ball’s been very firmly placed in our
court – in the court of the people on this call, the people we’re working with,
everyone listening to this is aware of what’s going on – if we want a new world
it actually is up to us.
Moving forward from this point
with all of the work of the Trustees behind us is actually a lot simpler than
we think. We’ve created an energetic
space for the One People. All we need to
do now is fill it. The way that we are
going to start filling it, when I say “we”, I mean this is actually me, and
what I’m suggesting to everybody out there ...
I’m posting some documents in the next 24 hours, with ... I’ve been struggling to write the introductory
material for this because I had to resolve some issues which I think I’ve got
my head around now, but essentially there is an Oath and Bond. And there’s two of them. There’s one for, (pause) I find it difficult to read this because I
get very emotional, but I’ll put that aside. One for the Servant of the One
People and one for the Protector of the One People. (pause)
Now they’re actually very simple
documents. I’m going to struggle to read them out, because I get too (pause)
emotional, but what I’m asking you to do is to consider whether you will
actually... commit. Move forward with
the concept of the One People BE’ing our own change; BE’ing what we need. There are military out
there who are looking for something to hang their hat on. They are looking for a way to...
Lisa: It’s okay.
It’s okay.
Chris: ...to fulfill their oaths,
okay? I’m saying that the military order
can’t move forward without volunteers.
This is actually the thing that’s required for them to do it. The thing that’s required for us to move
forward is for people to ... and not everyone has to do this. Free will choice. If you feel committed to helping this move
forward, then sign the Bond and Oath and fax or email ... we’ll have to do it
by email, but we might set up a special thing.
I want you to use, initially, the [foropaql@gmail.com] email if you want to email
them. If you can sign and scan it and
send it, it’s just a sign of your support (emotional) and the fact that you
want this to move forward.
Lisa: Thanks Chris.
Okay, Brian, you are getting a lot of questions in the chat room. I don’t know if you are noticing it, but they
want to know whether we’ve had any response from the Provost Marshals as yet.
Brian: (Laughing) Just laughing
at my joke, that I just put in the chat room. I said, “where does the king of
kings keep his armies?”. The answer is in his sleevies. (Laughing) (People
talking at once) Okay, what was the question?
Lisa: Has there been any response
from the provost marshals?
Brian: Yeah, we have had a couple
of responses from the provost marshals, but communication with all of them just
went out on Friday. One of which verified the legitimacy of the UN order and
now he’s taking it to his people to discuss it and get back. We are waiting on
that get-back process right now. I will say that those people out there in the
blogosphere that are under the attack of this idea and this exchange that is
going back and forth with SWISSINDO, to me that is very telling that we are
dealing with the right people or else why would there be such animosity toward
the discussion? I think that is a pretty good tell in the poker world, of
showing your hand.
D: Exactly!
Lisa: (laughing) Okay, look, I
have so many requests. I have had so many requests to address this recent
article that was put out by Michael Dunn. I wasn’t going to because honestly
people, I just didn’t want to give it the energy. But I am going to make some
clarifications. (coughs) When I am speaking, Excuse me. When I am speaking, I
am speaking; the only person I can represent is me. That’s it. I don’t
represent anybody else. Unless I preface something with “Heather said” or
“Brian said” and to pass it on to you, then I am speaking on behalf of myself.
I don’t represent the former OPPT. I don’t represent Heather or Caleb or
Randall. I just happen to be someone who is fortunate enough, and I feel very
blessed to be connected to these people.
Now, okay, what was the, someone
put it in here, that OPPT broke the peace with the Keenan group. There was no
peace because there was no war to start with. And, me, personally, Lisa, having
a discussion with a guy called Michael, is not a discussion between or a
negotiation between OPPT and Neil Keenan. It’s a discussion between Lisa and
Michael. Now, the first accusation was that there was a death threat to Neil.
I’m not going to argue that. I don’t know. I wasn’t in the room when he got the
call, or if he got the call. My only comment to it was (silence) that Brian
could giggle him to death.
Now, as a result of that, I had a
discussion with Michael as I talked about on last week’s show. I reiterated
that ... now, if Michael wants to interpret that as me speaking on behalf of
the former OPPT and on behalf of Heather, Caleb and Randall ... then he can,
that’s fine. But I was only giving my opinion. If he wants to declare that as
being a peace, then he can do that, that’s fine too. I’m at peace. I am not at
war with him or Neil, or anybody else. What else? Oh, that now that they have
actually poisoned Neil. But fortunately Neil seems to know what they are going
to poison him with and carries the antidote around. So that is great. He is
alive and well. I am very happy. Again, I don’t know if that happened. I don’t
know who did it, if it did. How could I? What else? What else am I supposed to
address on that? Anything else?
Brian: Keenan made a comment that
he came out and said that he likes war. I mean (laughing) ...
Lisa: Well, he can have a war,
but no-one that I know is turning up. (Many people talking, laughing)
D: Lisa, can I say something? I
haven’t said much. I will be short and concise, unlike Prince. (Laughing)
Chris: Thanks D.
D: Here’s the thing, and it goes
back to the comment of what you said two minutes ago: At no time did the OPPT
trustees seek out the SWISSINDO Trust. None. At no time did anyone pretending
to be working for/with the OPPT trustees go chasing after them saying, “hey,
hey, hey, come here we got to talk to you, we’ve got a deal for you today”.
Okay? They came. They sought out contact after what they saw in the file. They
have never even spoken to the OPPT trustees yet.
Lisa: No.
D: There have been conversations
going back and forth between several people and the SWISSINDO Trust People. The
SWISSINDO Trust people issued the orders that issued, all on their own. They
weren’t told to. They weren’t ordered to. They weren’t asked to. (Indistinct) I
remember when you and I ... I remember having a conversation when it all showed
up, when it all showed up, everyone thought: ‘holy crap, when did they post
that and oh my goodness!’
Lisa: Yeah, so who are these
people? What are they doing?
Bob: It’s just like I said before
D: It’s just people, the OPPT left information about their (indistinct)
filings. People go to do whatever they wanted with those filings. Some people
put up websites, some people put up videos and some people mobilized global
armies. (laughing)
Chris: (people laughing) One of
the things about this D ... I will drop in this one, I have to drop in this,
this one concept. Oh crap, and I just forgot what it was. Bugger! (laughing)
Lisa: I’m only going to make one
more comment on it, and that is that if (people laughing) anybody wants to
declare war with me, personally, or with the former OPPT, or with Heather and
Caleb and Randall, and Brian and D, I really do, and I am in this moment going
to speak on behalf of all of them. I’m going to say you’re on the battlefield
on your own guys. No one is showing up. Not interested in a fight. This about
(laughing) ... this is not about war. This is about peace at last. All those
people that have an agenda, who want to maintain control and power and global
accounts and have all the money and tell people what they can do with it,
they’re the ones who have got a problem.
Chris: Yep, and what, I have just
remembered what I was going to say; for fifty or more years, the SWISSINDO
people have been trying to work out what to do about the problem they’ve got
with the criminals who hijacked their asset. They haven’t had anybody, anything
else, appear that they could handball it on to which wasn’t corrupted by the
system. Otherwise all the projects that are running, like Neil Keenan’s, would
have got the gong a long time ago. What does that say about those guys?
Lisa: Okay guys...
Chris: and within weeks...
Lisa: Hang on, hang on. We’re
about to lose the broadcast. So for those people who were just listening live,
if you’ve called in, you’ll hear us, we are going to go over. But if you are
just listening on Blogtalk, then you will lose it. You can call in. Oh no you
can’t, there is no space left on the switchboard. So you will have to listen to
the archive to hear what happens after we go off the air. So thanks for joining
us. I know it has been a weird show. We’ve reminisced, we’ve recapped and we’ve
addressed some things, but we will keep going.
Chris: We will.
Lisa: Keep going Chris.
Chris: Yes, I’ll finish the
sentence. If they were going to be hand-balled to some project inside the
system, some deal inside the system, they would have done it. But they just
couldn’t find anyone with integrity. Within about four or five weeks of seeing
the work of the trustees, boom, they are throwing in a document that orders the
UN to shut the system down. What does that tell you about these other things
that are going on, that are barking at us and making noise?
Bob: Well, one thing I ...
Chris: .... and their motivation.
Bob: One thing I will say, for
all those who doubted the veracity of those filings, when it starts to get,
when it gets world rulers to act on those same filings, I would say that those
filings probably have some legitimacy to them.
(laughing)
Chris: We’re going to lose
everybody, so bye-bye from me.
D: (indistinct)
Brian: Namaste.
Lisa: Okay, we’re going to keep
going though. We need to, there are a lot of people who want to talk about
military and DC and Boston and all of that stuff. I can’t offer anything other
than my observation which was Boston was “Bullshit!” There you go! What do you
guys want to add to that?
Bob: Well, I was waiting for all
the credits to come up after I saw the video. (all laughing). All the Hollywood
credits.
D: Well, you know, it’s funny. I
wasn’t going to post any more about the Boston thing, because I am just not
giving energy to it. I have been following a group who have been putting
together information. In a photo, they have analyzed the photos so thoroughly
that I am going to post it tomorrow morning. I am sure a lot of people have
seen it already, but it just so blatantly lays it out in black, white and red.
It’s sick.
Chris: Were they commenting on
the injuries D?
D: On the injuries, the whole
setup. The one set, they have got filming of supposedly it have all happened,
and happening, and they have analyzed it, each photo if you will, each piece of
the film. They have pulled them out, like sort of the six and the eighth and
then the twelfth, and they pull them out of the film and they show you. They
doctored...
Bob: They pointed out the actors.
(laughing)
D: Exactly! They analyze
everything going on in the scene and they show you, and you look, and when you
read it, I’ll post it, I’ll even get it out tonight. When you read it and you
look at the photos, you’re just like ‘Oh My!’ It’s so ridiculously, obviously
actors. And obviously fake. I mean the first thing, that’s the first thing I
ever saw. I used to be a medic in the army, okay? All the fake blood they kept
showing, blood is not that color. Only in cartoons is blood actually that
color.
Chris: Yep.
D: Blood, once it hits the air,
and sits for a minute or two, it turns dark, dark, dark, almost burgundy. Almost
deep brown, to the point of, there are photos that they were showing that would
have to have been almost fifteen, twenty minutes later. That blood by that
point on concrete would have been pretty much black by that point.
Chris: Uh-hu.
D: I just, everything, the whole
bit, it was all (indistinct) ...
Chris: Yeah, I have to...
D: That was another false flag.
Chris: D, could I just throw in
one thing?
D: Yep.
Chris: I am actually a scientific
photographer by my original training and I spent ten years taking medical
photographs...
D: Cool!
Chris: And if you look at the
damage to the clothing, there is one particular shot of a guy staggering out in
to the street with his pants in tatters. Look at the damage to his clothing,
and look at his legs. They have got color painted on them, but there’s no
injuries to them. The force required to rip clothes apart like that would have
ripped the legs to bits.
D: Yep.
Chris: Okay? And he shouldn’t
even be walking.
D: Yeah, when I post these
tonight, you’ll see it. You will see, the same thing, there are several people
in the whole scene where there is a guy lying on the ground with his legs blown
off. Everyone is being seen to around him, except him. (laughing) They need
him, they cleared like away around him, so that they could film – oh, my
goodness, how horrible, it’s terrible. No one...
Lisa: So what is the point? What
is the frigging point!
D: It’s fear porn, right?
Lisa: Seriously!
D: It is a desperate, desperate
attempt. West Texas was another one. This whole thing that is coming down in
the news now, I just heard about it a few hours ago, that apparently, the
Canadian government stopped a terrorist plot that was going to blow up a train
between Toronto and New York. I am going to go out on a limb here and say,
cough, cough, bullshit!
(Laughing)
Bob: And D, did you know, there
is a boogieman around every corner and there is a rapist behind every bush.
D: There is.
Brian: I got some money from the
Tooth Fairy last night.
(Laughing)
Lisa: So usually as well, if they
are ramping up the fear, it’s because they are going, they are going to provide
the solution, right? So, what do you think is coming down the pipeline in terms
of a solution?
Bob: Let’s see, CISPA? (laughing)
D: The other thing is, with
everything that is going on, I have spoken to a few people who have said that
they believe that the Boston bombing was basically an attempt by one faction of
the Cabal to stop the new financial system coming into play and delay that.
That is one theory I have heard.
Lisa: How does that even work?
D: That and you have the West
Texas thing happen within literally, what, 24 hours of each other? And then you
had the big shootout in Boston and all that kinda stuff. And martial law in
Boston. And, one of two things, is it delays things or it makes a great cover,
doesn’t it? So for example, Interpol issued on, give me a second, Friday night,
Saturday? Saturday, Interpol issued global security alert. That was based on
the bombing in Boston. Yea, everyone I spoke to high up said the same thing. It
was all about the financial stuff. That it had nothing to do with the Boston.
Lisa: I am sorry, but there’s
parts of the world where bombs go off on a daily basis.
D: Yeah, exactly.
Lisa: Where people get killed and
torn to shreds, in the hundreds everyday.
D: Yep.
Lisa: So what, why is it that a
bomb goes off in Boston, supposedly, and how many people get killed, Three?
D: That can be proven?
Brian: I think there are three.
Lisa: Well, no. Numbers can be
proven. So, three. And it results in that?
D: Yeah, exactly.
Brian: Yeah.
Chris: Hmm.
D: So, it’s a symptom of the
desperation, is what it is. They are so completely and utterly desperate right
now. You just sit back, and, the whole thing is that their desperation is
making them incredibly clumsy. The Boston bombing, they were debunking that
within 45 minutes of it happening. I had the first stuff landing in my inbox.
Here’s a photo of this, here’s a photo of that. Look at this, look at that. No
this isn’t right, this isn’t right. That’s how clumsy they are. I mean really?
The red paint on the ground? Even Hollywood they could get real fake blood. All
they had to do was go to any theatrical production store in Hollywood. They
could have got all the fake blood they want and it would have looked real.
Lisa: Well, you know what? In one
of my past lives, I was a makeup artist for television and film. (laughing) I
did special effects and I know how to do someone, I’ve still got photos of when
I was at school doing this stuff and some of the films I’ve worked on. Yeah,
blood does not look like tomato sauce, I’m sorry. (laughing) Or fresh burns,
fresh burns look like fried chicken.
Chris: Yeah, the fresh burns did
not look like burns. Well, plus, if it had gone off with force, if it had all
the shrapnel in it, that they spoke of, there should have been injuries right
across the street and there weren’t. It was localized just to the immediate
area around and because the film is so vague, you can’t get an idea of how many
people are there. In fact there is some scaffolding, if you look at the raw
footage, there appears to be some scaffolding with a tarp on it where the
explosion goes off When you see, the first thing that appears on the media
after the explosion were police kind of pulling the scaffolding out the way to
get into the bomb area, where, obviously it was there as a shield. To make sure
that whatever damage there was, wasn’t too severe and also gives them, it helps
them, in amongst the smoke, to position all the actors and throw all the blood
down.
D: Well, here’s the other thing.
This is another one. Actually this just came to me today when I was looking at
the set of photos before I came on the show. The guy who had his legs blown
off, where was his legs?
Chris: Hmmm.
(laughing)
D: First rule of anything, ever,
dealing with anything amputated, finger, even a tooth, (silence) is you bring
the limb. Because there is always that chance, if they get to it fast enough,
that it can be re-attached. No, no EMT, no fireman, no policemen, no army
medic, is going to go in and have a guy, and there not be someone going to,
find his legs man! Find them! That was just a thought off the top of my head.
It sounded gruesome, I’m sorry, but yeah.
Bob: Hey Lisa, are we gonna take
any callers tonight?
D: And I have to go guys I'm
sorry.
Brian: Yeah guys, I got dinner
calling, I gotta jump too. So thank you everybody for listening. Much love to
you all and I will see you all when the world spins once over for the
Collective Imagination.
Lisa: Talking away and I was
muted. Okay you guys go, we'll take the calls and see if we can get through
them without you. We'll do our best. (everybody laughs)
D: I'm sure you'll have no
problem darlin’. Good night everyone, I love you all.
Chris: Okay D, bye, Brian.
D: Happy Earth Day.
Lisa: Ah yes, happy Earth Day.
D: Yes I'm cheating. My laptop is
turned on, but it's sitting in the dark.
Lisa: (laughs) Okay, see you
tomorrow.
(everyone said good night to D)
Lisa: Alright, let’s take a call.
We’ve only got five here on the line waiting still to speak, so area code 646.
Caller: Hi Lisa.
Lisa: Oh, who was that? You
sounded almost like R2D2.
Caller: Hello Lisa, it's Rick in
Connecticut.
Lisa: Oh hi Rick! Hey how are
you?
Chris: Hi Rick.
Rick (caller): I want to preface
something and I'm not saying this because I want to garner any sympathy, but as
a background. In 1985 I had the displeasure of seeing my boss blown up by a
bomb set by Ted Kazscinsky (sp) who is known in America as the Unibomber.
Shrapnel blew through metal doors 20 feet into the building my boss was on the
other side of. I opened the door and he was still standing. Most of his hands
were blown off and I don't know it must have been a motion sensitive thing. So
the FBI was involved and all kinds of stuff and you know that kind of shit
really changes you.
So when the bomb thing happened
this week, it wasn't so much that I was having kind of PTSD because I have a
whole different perspective on it. But like you guys were saying, it was not
passing the sniff test. Then once they shut down the whole city, I'm thinking
like, no freaking way, why are they doing this? Then it occurred to me. Now
back in '85, there was definitely no cell phone, no internet or anything. Then
in '95 with the Oklahoma City bombing thing, there still, I don't even think
you had an internet. You had cell phones, but no smart phones. Even 9/11 you
had the internet, but you really didn't have the iPhone or smart phones showing
up yet. But now we have an internet with really robust search engines and
everybody has a smart phone with a video or camera ability. Maybe THAT's why
instead of “for everyone's safety”, they were keeping everybody housebound so
they weren't out with their iPhones and stuff like that you know, knocking down
whatever evidence they were trying to determine.
Lisa: That's a good point.
Rick (caller): You know, whatever
case they were trying to make. And meanwhile during that whole week where I was
kind of mulling through that and really questioning my faith in my fellow
citizens here, because there's some really xenophobic, jingoistic, just crap,
just floating all around the social network and I was just like are these
people for real? So meanwhile from a parking ticket I got back in September, I
finally got this thing from the Department of Finance in New York City saying
if I didn't pay this parking ticket which now has another $40 on it for
penalties or something, that if I didn't do it they could garnish my wages,
impound my car, and all these things. It really ticked me off, cuz it's like
really for a hundred and some odd dollar ticket you have all of this power.
That's when it finally occurred to me, cuz I would have been on the fence,
should I do a Courtesy Notice or should I just kind of ignore this stuff and let’s
see what things happen in the world where I won't even have to deal with it.
What I'm trying to say, I guess, compounded with what was going on in the world
with the Boston situation and everything I just thought you know what? I'm not
down with this.
Lisa: Whoa Rick, I'm gonna mute
you darling because that’s terrible. We keep losing you. I'm sorry. That was
ooh. I'll come back to you. We'll take another caller and come back to you
hopefully you can get it finished.
Lisa: Area code 347.
Caller: Yes, hello everyone it's
Flo.
Lisa: Hey it's Prince. How ya
doing?
Prince (caller): Doin’ okay. Just
touching base with everybody seeing how’s everything going and flowing the
energy you guys got going on tonight little reminiscing. It does remind me of
one of those episodes of Simpsons where just go through all 50 of the most
recent episodes and just give a good old recap just to kind of fill up a good
day just to get your mind focused.
Lisa: Well, I think it actually
is good every now and then to take a step back and take in the journey that
we've all been on cuz it's been pretty extraordinary.
Prince (caller): Yes exactly.
That's what this year’s been for me. A lot of looking at what I want to do,
looking at what is, and looking at what I've done, so definitely a
reconciliation. I just want to say I love you guys man. I'm looking at probably
making a show a weekly thing and doing it on Wednesdays. So fingers crossed I
can get something solid on the ground and probably make a statement here in the
next couple of weeks. I just wanted to say I love you guys and I appreciate,
much respect to everybody who's campaigning and doing their thing DO’ing and
BE’ing.
Lisa: Thanks Prince. We always
love to hear from you.
Chris: Yup. Thanks Flo.
Prince (caller): Thank you guys.
Lisa: And it does sound like the
call-in line on blog talk is being messed with a bit.
Chris: Definitely. Definitely.
Bob: I'm just checking my tools
and they are lowering our bandwidth right now on this Skype call so that's
probably, since I'm hosting.
Lisa: Oh, okay. But it's only the
calls coming in through the blog talk studio.
Chris: To be honest if their
gonna mess up anything, it's our communications with the people that they'll
want to interfere with the most. It’s such powerful conversations that are so
strong.
Lisa: Well, we've now got area
code 818 unmuted. Area code 818.
Caller: Hello. Can you hear me?
Bob: We can hear you, but it's cutting in and out
a little bit.
Caller: Okay, let me know if it
gets too annoying. My name is Cody. I'm from Hollywood, California.
Lisa: Hey Cody.
Cody (caller): Hi, how are you
guys? I just want to say thank you for everything that you guys are doing. I'm
just gonna speak for everyone I'm sure. Everyone out there just loves you and
adores you and appreciates everything you guys are doing to help us to see the
light here, so thank you.
Lisa: And we love and adore each
and every one of you for helping us.
Chris: Yeah, thank you Cody.
Lisa: It all goes around. What
goes around comes around.
Cody (caller): Right on. I just
have a couple of quick questions. Just real quick to Chris. I had a chance to
listen to ... well first of all I've been following since the very beginning. I
have not missed the show and I just want to say to the show you did with Julien
for us listeners who are on a spiritual journey it was very helpful to hear
what was going on on the energetic side of things. Not that this isn't, but on
the spiritual side with the channeling and speaking with the angels and what
they have to say about the extraterrestrials or the guys come in to help us
out, so that was helpful to hear that. It would be great if you had a show with
Julien with you guys where we could actually call in and ask him some
questions. It also helps facilitate this journey that we have with the One
People now.
Chris: Yeah. We're kind of
working up to something like that. Julien’s extremely sensitive to the audience
that he has. For instance, when we have one of the ... we've expanded to one
particular Skype room. You've heard a couple of conversations we've had in
there if you look on the OPPT-IN site. He needs to know who's in his audience
that he's talking to. Before we start the recordings, we actually get everyone
to say hello to him so he knows who he's got in the room. Essentially he's
adapting to it and that'll probably happen, but the conversations you've heard
will be on-going and we'll keep them coming. Yup.
Lisa: The other thing to do
possibly would be to add Cody to the room.
Chris: Sure. Yeah. Look Cody, if
you want to email your Skype details, you can find me on Skype fairly easily.
Just look for Chris Hales in northern Australia, you should find me there and
I'll add you to the room where we're having those conversations. That’s the
best thing to do.
Cody (caller): Okay, thank you. That would be awesome. Then on another note, this SWISSINDO
document, you made a comment, Chris, as well, about the Bond and Oath... That
they have been the only people to come forward, not to mention that they have
80% of the world’s wealth, but they came to us.
I think that says a lot about the energy that we are holding, as opposed
to the people that are just making noise, if you know what I mean.
Chris: Absolutely, Cody. You’ve got that in one. The energy that we are holding is what
attracted them. They obviously have not
been attracted to all of the other sharks that are circling them. Let me put it that way.
Cody (caller): Mmmhmmm.
Okay, I thought that, you guys have been talking a lot about the One
People. I’ve noticed over the weeks the people have been asking Heather and,
you know other people, what about a bridge for us to bridge from this old
paradigm to this new paradigm. People
have been focused on money and we’ve been like:
“Well, don’t focus on money. You
shouldn’t be. The real thing is about understanding who you are and
awakening.” That’s fine, but there’s
also an aspect of money that has to be considered can’t be ignored because it
is part of life. Some people can work
around it and quit their job, and not worry about rent or a mortgage because
they don’t have kids. But some people do
have to be concerned with those things.
So I thought to myself: ‘Well,
what can we do to encompass everybody’s requirements here and moving forward
with that in mind?‘
So I was like: ‘Well, if we just
get the gold or the silver we’re just going to put it back in the old system
and then it’s gonna to keep going’. So I
was thinking: ‘Well, what if they gave
people a space (inaudible) in our money as a transition into the new system
that will not require money, that we use a different currency while they are
educated on the new system?’ Because if
everyone woke up right now, truth be told, we do not have a system in place to
support them. Even me going to the
grocery story trying to get foods that are not contaminated, there is very few
items that are available to me, okay? I
study this every day all day. It’s my
life.
So, what do we do for the people
that don’t understand, that are trying to transition, the people, even people
like me? We need a way to move from this
place and make it easier and happier while we make this transition. We have that power to do that, so I think we
need to brainstorm on that.
Lisa: I think that’s very much a part of the
discussions that are ongoing.
Chris: Yeah, Cody, that’s central to the
discussion. There has to be a bridge to
allow an intermediate phase where people can take a breath because it’s gonna
be a big shift. Yes, that is absolutely central to what discussions we’re now having
in trying to move forward with SWISSINDO.
So you are actually right on the program. You’re right in the current moment. Yeah, it’s good to know that people are
actually really getting it and see what the real issues are. The place that Heather is in is
extraordinary, but we’ve got a whole planet full of people to get over
there. That’s why I have to take the
SWISSINDO offer really seriously, because it’s the only thing in sight that has
all of the ingredients we need to get from this side of the bridge to the other
side of the bridge.
Cody (caller): Right.
Also the Marshalls enforcing the new, I guess, laws of the Universe, if
you want to say, that will be put in place that we should all be living by –
that we should’ve always been living by – but you know I guess it’s never too
late. So, we’re starting now, but you
know having that in place ... instead we want to buy a car that actually is
clean energy. If we want to buy food that’s ... all those systems that, once
people wake up they’re not gonna want to eat stuff that has bad things in
it. They’re not going to want have cars
that are spewing out poison that are killing people. We need those systems in place so that we can
actually switch over as quickly and easily as possible. So, I was reading through the document as
best I could, and it wasn’t that easy to ... and I’m a college educated person.
Chris: Cody, kudos to you for reading the document,
because I’m not sure that that many people have even attempted it. It’s pretty tough going, isn’t it? There’s so much stuff in there.
Cody (caller): Yeah!
It wasn’t....
Chris: ...that is not clear in the sense of: there’s a massive amount of account
information, and what appear to be definitions of financial entities involved,
etc. Then you get down to the jagged English translations. It’s actually Javanese Indonesian, the
original language, so we’re looking at some pretty average translations of
that. It makes it pretty difficult to
interpret in fine detail, but did you get a sense of what they were trying to
achieve with it?
Cody (caller): I did.
It sounds like they were putting something in place to enforce the new
doctrine or paradigm. That there’s a “white wonder boy” who seems to be in
charge of the Indonesian Trusts or funds that would be facilitating it. That half would be used to hold us to the
banks and the other would be used for the world to change. It was actually
divided up individually by countries, and I believe it was divided up by the
population per country....
Chris: Yes.
Yes, it was.
Cody (caller): ...and so that would determine how much money
you would get, so yeah...
Chris: Yeah, it works out approximately six million
dollars per person, if you work it out.
That’s the rough figure that you’re going for. See that’s enough ... because if this shift
takes place the way that I personally envision it, what they will do is: take control of the banking system, strip
away the bits that are not required, like the derivatives market, the stock
market, etc, and repurpose it as transaction only, having zeroed all
debts. So if you take the debt out of
the equation and give people sufficient money for several months at least, so
that they can absorb all of the information that’s gonna be pouring out, you
know you’re starting to talk about a practical bridge. But just how much money would be put in and
how that would all be handled is as yet unknown, but the actual off that
SWISSINDO put up is for that amount.
Which is not, you know, 5 billion dollars; it’s not a huge amount, but
it’s enough to get us over this period of where all the really most dramatic
changes happen in finance and politics and the legal system, etc, etc. Which is why the SWISSINDO offer is really
important. You know? It’s come at exactly the right time. It’s been rather a confusing introduction to
them, just through the circumstances, but you know I think we can make it
work. I think they’ve got the right
intent.
Cody (caller): Well, believe that we can do anything we want
to at this point. I also believe that
... there’s been some concern us giving right back in to the old system and
giving in another, so I was thinking maybe we should just give money. Like physical dollars – that kind of money –
and that money will not be good in the new system, so that it runs out. You know what I mean? So that it doesn’t give them a new push. There’s ways around that so we don’t have to
wait to be helped. We can start a system
now where we can help each other and also the old system can go out, and the new
system can come in, and no one’s hurt.
The people that have been in pain and have been enslaved can actually
get some help ASAP. I believe that that’s the intention of the One People for
the One People. So, I would say, in a
general way of course, that’s just my opinion.
Chris: Yep.
Yep. Well, we’re all putting
forth our energy in the form of opinion here, and that’s absolutely our right. Now look, thanks Cody.
Lisa: Yeah, let’s not take any more calls. The quality of the line is almost undecipherable,
so...
Chris: Yeah.
We can only just understand you Cody.
Lisa: Yeah.
Thank you, Cody, for calling in.
Unfortunately we had to mute you, too, because it’s just deteriorating
so much. Guys, we’ve gone half an hour
over. It’s been an interesting
show. We’ve been all over the
place. Just wanted to let everyone know
that the Oath and Bond that Chris just talked about before will be on the
website [http://oppt-in.com/oath-and-bond]
in the next 24 hours, let’s say. So you
can have a look at them there and read through them and see why Chris was
feeling emotional.
Chris: Yip.
Lisa: They are a lovely document I must say. Ok, anything else before we sign off?
Chris: I’m good Lisa.
Bob: I’m good.
Chris: We’ve hit so many subjects today. We’ll just hold the conversation over until
tomorrow.
Lisa: All right, we’ll see you guys tomorrow on The
Collective Imagination Show [http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecollectiveimagination]....[times
discussed]...I just want us to all be on the same timeframe. I really do.
Chris: Yeah.
Yeah, if we are going to be in this one time, maybe that’s what will
happen? How would that be?
Lisa: Yeah, maybe.
That would be great.
Chris: Yeah, ‘cause we’ll be doing instantaneous
transport, so there won’t be any of this flying for 20 hours. Hmmm...
That’ll work.
Lisa: Ohh... Looking forward to that. Not a big fan of flying, in the current form.
Chris: Nope.
Lisa: All right, well it’s been awesome. So thank you guys. W’ll talk to you tomorrow. Bye for now everyone.
(Others): Bye.
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