I sent my application way back in November 11th and I never received a confirmation by tel or email. I left the 1- of the area code of my tel number so that could be why.
the vast majority of applicants will not receive a reply- they have far too many. a few people have received replies due to missing info on their application- so don't worry about it my friend :>)
I send an eMail to ClaytonFrom: To: firstname.lastname@example.orgSent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:04 PMSubject: One QuestionHello alcyon263: I was reading today, that some type of PP's are now being send, my question is, it is possible for you to let me know about the status of my Grant Application send on 11/10/2012.I really hope for some help. Best Regardsand Clayton answer back;Your grant application is fine. The PP's are something totally different.
I am Anonymous 18:10, so thanks BTS for the reply:)
What if you had already aplied. I had back in first of Oct.
HELLO... THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN UPDATED FOR THE TRUST. PLEASE APPLY AT THESE WEB SITES. I HAVE AUTOMATED THE PROCESS DUE TO BEING FLOODED WITH EMAILS. USA... USE THIS LINK: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7TYL3Q7INTERNATIONAL.. USE THIS LINK http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7PVSJW8
ALSO...DO NOT APPLY MORE THAN ONCE... WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO EMAILS, UNLESS THERE IS A PROBLEM. REST ASSURED, WE ARE WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN
Anonymous 13:56/14:01, PLEASE contact BTS and verify yourself to her. Thank you!!!
From all the research I have done here this is a fraud. The current "survey" link that is supposed to be an application to the St. Germain's World Trust has been disabled by the survey website it was put on. I wonder what is being done with the information already culled from the poor victims who gave their information before it was taken down?I have been listening to this PP stuff for nearly 20 years, and it is always 'just around the corner!' However it never happens, and people still buy into it. This David Wynn Miller dude is the same deal, he appeals to our knowing that the government/corp. is corrupt and that we are using a failing system. But while I don't trust the lame stream media I can research enough to see that this fella is full of crap. He makes so many unsubstantiated claims and bizzare proclamations like he is king of Hawaii and the entire supreme court are his students! I have talked to three of the justices and while two had heard of him they all thought he was looney. He thinks his brain is more able to do math than the most powerful super computers on Earth, and much much more. I researched just a few of the cases he has been involved with and none had been successful.I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I am going to need concrete proof before I trust that any of these PP even exist. I will continue to pray that they do, and stand ready to support any effort to free the people from the bonds of the ptb!
Well, some have wondered whether people would continue to work if they had the money.If these tiers continue to be staggered, some will still be working and waiting and some will be receiving and giving and starting business and such around us.I am like a prior Anonymous one who was trying to say be careful looking a gift horse in the mouth. (my words not theirs).There is always some disclosure to get something. Then a non-disclosure once you get it. No law impairing the obligation of contracts shall be made.I try to think how deep I could get if I were Cabal and knew about these programs and was losing my grip on the populace.I'd probably convince some to give me their details and I'd represent them to the program leaders and show them that I have been appointed to represent them and their interest. The program leaders seeing the agreement will probably hand me the funds they would have handed the one who asked me to represent them. [I only provided an e-mail address, they sought me and asked me to let them in]. Then I'd take a cut off the top for my time and effort to manage the transactions [whatever they may be] and have the one who signed up with me to remain quiet about our agreement. It would be legal. They sought me and I made the arrangements to get them the money. They just didn't get as much as they would had they done it on their own.That's me thinking as deep as I can about the 'gift horse' that only wants you to send an e-mail and a phone number in the beginning.People will give all kinds of personal information for a 'chance' to get ahead or to keep up. Sometimes you wonder if they really are able to handle their business without giving so much of their self to someone they don't know...but they trust a whole lot with their personal info.Those that want the program will not listen to me. I do not speak for you. I'm just posting from my dark side.My light side says it's all good, and we all get what we deserve and what we desire. If we want someone to handle our business, then we can get someone to handle our business. We live with the decision and it's okay because it's our decision of our Free Will and not by force.Our co-created future will be interesting indeed.Anyone riding on my private information may find that as they touch things they have no business and while they are watching me, someone may be watching them...bwaaa haaa haaa haaa. Just kidding.Let's all step into the future and enjoy our adventure along the way.
Hopefully he is still accepting them. I didn't apply the first round because I was skeptical and thought it was a gimmick to steal some info but I am hopeful now. Could really use some help for my GF and I with a child on the way.
it's not a gimmick my friend :>)
I applied yesterday and got an immediate answer. I was told I would be included. I passed the info onto my friend who applied yesterday and she received a reply this morning. It truly is the dawning of the Golden Age! Be blessed everyone and THANK YOU ST. Germain and Clayton Hannah!
It is grand that things appear to be back of track again. The motto of old St. Nick is to ask "Have you been naughty or nice?" and this is what each person should be involved in asking themselves. What karmic lessons are you expecting to receive for the seeds you have planted? The attention needs to go within to the heart to seek the goodness that resides there, for everyone. If more of this is done, the attention spreads from within to those without and nullifies the evil that One encounters in the everyday 3D. My thanks to RTS/BTS for making things "Begin To Look A Lot Like Christmas".
I applied yesterday and received no confirmation answer! In what form did your answer come, Crystallineone?
As I have said, not everyone is getting a confirmation- they are processing thousands and thousands of applications
I knew that. I was just checking to see if you remembered, D 8)(he says as he hears a chorus of DUUUH )
you're such an antagonist, lol!!!!!!!!
D Has any more pp been confirmed before christmas? Is this one going out after Christmas?Thanks
I applied yesterday and have not heard yet.
D, what is the email address to apply?
Click on "HERE" in the post.
I had applied on the 10th of november. On the 22nd of november i shot clayton another e-mail, I point blank asked him if he was a scammer because i had no response. Clayton E-mailed me back (he was offended) i felt quite sheepish. I dont remember how i found the story on the internet, but i had run across where it said there is several applicant recievers. These persons had to be vetted and the people went though vigorous scrutiny to insure their integrity. When the process of insuring these peoples could be trusted there were a lot more application recievers. Eventually they worked out the persons with questionable integrity. These people left are honorable people!!!!! I am sorry Clayton for my impatience and skepticism.I would advise holding on to your horses and trusting these people. I just decided to be thankful and not pester.
wow.. I haven't heard about the applications yet. Could someone fill me in? I would really appreciate it.ThanksAnonymous
I just found the info that I needed. It said theapps were closed on Nov. 11th. Is that right?I knew about St. Germaine but not the applications.Out to Lunch...tee hee!! That was me that wrote the about comment also. I only just joined this website recently altho I had been reading the articles on another website. And I love it here! Great info!Thank you very much
Welcome on board my friend :>)D
i just applied as of Dec 20 very early AMpraying i'm not too late, as the forclosure process is looming. would be the absolute definition of "miracle" if this is real and actually happens!
Is this the grant where we take a portion, and forward the balance to additional parties? Or is the entire amount allocated to the recipient? Thanks!
I believe the entire amount is allocated to the recipient
It is all part of the DIVINE PLAN to free Humanity from the shackles... Have faith because all your dreams are about to come true.
BTS***Do you know if once we receive the package from the Courier, do we have to sign for it in order to receive it? I may not be home. Thanks!
if you're not home, they will leave a notice for you to make arrangements to pick up
i applied at 19th dec and am very curious to see this play out - or not, haha... we'll see, i guess. just to be sure: this IS an international thing (as opposed to those trusts for the native americans etc who seem to be US only), right? since i'm based in germany (hence the bad english, my excuses for that ;-)), this might eplain if nothing happens for me. i included all the necessary info (i hope), so that shouldn't be a problem there. just out of curiosity, is there a deadline after which one should forget about all this and accept the fact that one didn't get included for whatever reason?
I do not have confirmation of whether there is any limitations internationally. I'm trying to find out though! WE also do not know when deliveries will start- there have been tons of different rumours- some saying it will take months to get them all delivered..... once I get more info i will definitely post it.
wow, that was a devilishly quick reply, thanks for that :) just out of curiosity - and please forgive me if this sounds greedy or anything like that (i assure i'm not, or else i would have opted for some totally different line of "work" than i did, haha), it's just that i'd really be interested in knowing how this is all supposed to be set up - what amount are we talking? not necessarily in specific numbers, maybe something like "enough to live life according to your own terms without having to worry about retirement or wether you'll still have a job next month", or more like "paying off that huge mortgage for the house plus sth extra" or maybe even more like "what a nice, belated gift for christmas, i think i'll buy something nice for the kids and for the rest have a fresh haircut"? :D
BTS....less than 24 hours to go....any other info you able to say....about anything....
Fwiw, I submitted a request at the time when notice about the grants was originally given, and recently I received confirmation from Clayton directly.
Applied. Lets see :)
where does one get an application. email @ email@example.com
there is no application - you send an email- see the link above from yesterday that gives you all the information
What if your address may change in the next few weeks? Will the packages be forwarded to any forwarding addresses if you can be found at the address applied at?
Be sure to send your change of address to the email address that you sent your application to.
Yeah yeah great, give up your personal info. Nice way to make the roundup list for the FEMA camps.I mean really. What DUPES.David Koresh would be jealous.Don't shoot the messenger.
Dude are you as naive as you sound here? The elite have every single last nit of any personal info you or I have, It hasnt been personal for a very long time. They own us all and have every bit of info they could every possible need on us..... LMAO!
Anon 7:45Remember Big Brother-????That's what the movie 'The Truman Show' was showing you, amongst other things, to wake you up.
"Don't shoot the messenger" ....first off you are no messenger....a messenger transfers information from one source to another in a unbiased manner....you are stating an opinion nothing more...and an uneducated one at that...I have no interest in shooting anybody though...so I will do with this negative post like I do for all negative posts like it....I will just move along with out a second thought of it...except with a warning to educated people who wish to stay positive......MOVE ALONG PEOPLE.....NOTHING TO SEE HERE.......
have i missed the boat?..never mind,the world is full of people more desevering than my self..good luck every body and merry xmas
BTS, do you know if anyone received grants from the first round?
You haven't missed the boat my friend
thank you breaking the silence for reassuring me that i have not missed the boat...
There is a difference.There is a difference in someone collecting information about you without your expressed consent and getting information from you of your Free Will and with your expressed consent.Case and point, IRS has collected information about you and know all your details even more than a credit report, but if they wanted you to pay a tax, lien, or levy through your bank account, they will ask "you" for the name of the bank and the account information and with the giving of those details, they have expressed consent to go get the funds from your account. Or they'll go through your employer and let them consent to the action and give up the fruits of your labor before you can see it.There is consent behind every contract and all contracts are binding upon the parties.If it was FEMA would you know?Would you care for a chance to be helped out of the situation you are in?The answer for most is. No. They need help and if it comes to them they will accept it in whatever form it comes.So ignore people who post comments against what you desire.Right now, everyone will get what they are creating for their selves.It is by divine plan.Just need to know what you are creating, and most don't know.I'm not the one who posted the above 'don't shoot the messenger comment' either.Experience is the best teacher.May you get what you desire.
the St Germaine grant funds have not yet been released to the public
So are these PPs only for people who apply for them? What about all of the people who don't know what PPs are or who do know about them but have no idea how to go about applying for one?
Anon 11:36. Yes, there are many more that do not know. The beauty of it is the folks that receive these packages will have instructions of how to move forward in regards to how to help others. In our case, we have a mental list of other people that we will help. If everyone does their part, it should be spread around.
I just can't help but think that too many will fall through the cracks. I personally am still a little afraid to apply for a pp. It's really hard to trust that it's the real thing.
Anon 12:02, what have you got to lose? There's is plenty in this New Earth for everyone. How many other organizations already have your address and phone? C'mon, live a little!:)
this is only just one small piece of the prosperity programs that will be rolling out
i can't believe nobody has asked if these grants can be redeemed immediately or must be held until NESARA or the reset is announced? Can be 'cashed/deposited' at any bank? Do they come in check/cheque form? Of the personal confirmations - what was the time between application to receiving them? if all this is part of the strict NDA i can understand that. I'm just super inquisitive.
the grants have not been released yet. I will update when they are released
I have a question for those involved with these programs, does this have anything to do with the International Award Payment Center by any chance? Does anyone who they are?Because I received a stamped letter from them via express courier service. It was sent by courier international. The letter keeps saying I need to send in $9 or $20 to be eligible for their BLUE SERIES prize for the contest. It is a skill test asking to answer a puzzle box that has numbers at bottom. It demands I send this back in seven days, or the prize cannot be claimed. I've heard everywhere that this is a scam but now I'm not so sure. I called the company and they claimed they are a long time, well represented direct mail lottery company. Does anyone have experience with International Award Payment Center in Kansas Missouri at all? Do you believe it is connected with the Prosperity Programs they send out? What actions should I take?Also I have received other notices in my mail. Particularly, I have been targeted by banks who sent me threatening letters stating they would enforce a court injunction if I took out anymore loans. It was quite overbearing what they did. I do not know why I was targeted, but appreciate any sort of help regarding the International Award Payment Center/North American Award Center who sent the prize letters.
That is 100% a scam. Do not send this company (Intl. Award Payment Center) a dime. It is not affiliated with this. If this is in fact true, you will not be required to ever send a penny.
NONE OF THE PPS ARE INVOLVED IN ANY WAY WITH THIS COMPANY!!!! You will NEVER EVER be asked to pay any money to be involve the the prosperity programs
HELLO... THE APPLICATION PROCESS HAS BEEN UPDATED FOR THE TRUST. PLEASE APPLY AT THESE WEB SITES. I HAVE AUTOMATED THE PROCESS DUE TO BEING FLOODED WITH EMAILS. USA... USE THIS LINK: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7TYL3Q7INTERNATIONAL.. USE THIS LINK http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7PVSJW8ALSO...DO NOT APPLY MORE THAN ONCE... WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO EMAILS, UNLESS THERE IS A PROBLEM. REST ASSURED, WE ARE WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN
I cannot vouch for this information above as i have not been informed of it's existence .
Oooops - i just sent the link to a bunch of contacts. Should I tell them all to stay with the email?
Does that mean if we sent an email this morning to apply, that it will still get processed or do we need to re-submit the application through this link?
as I said- I do not vouch for this link as I have no knowledge of it's existence.
BTS, we sent an email to the Clayton email address you provided above and an email came back from (firstname.lastname@example.org) Clayton's email, stateing the following:"Thank you for your Grant Application. Our application procedures have changed, to expedite processing. Please go to the following links to submit your application-USA: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7TYL3Q7INTERNATIONAL: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7PVSJW8Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience."
That's Awesome news! Thanks for sharing. Now I know my friends I gave the surveymonkey links will be taken care of.
I sent my application in around the same time, but didn't hear anything back, either. It may be that they are too busy to respond, or perhaps they just didn't get it, for whatever reason. Therefore, I sent in another application, thinking that my first one might have not been delivered. I included a return receipt option whereby they only had to click on a tab to let me know it had been received. So far, I haven't heard anything from the second email application either. So, I guess we just wait to see if anything happens.
Here’s a thought (and question) for you BTS. Do you think it would be prudent for folks to use any grant or PP monies received to pay down mortgages and any other debts? ;)Blessings
ummmmmm... I can't really answer that my friend.
BTS, thanks for your reply and much gratitude and thanks for everything you do on here that is helping so many folks...blessings
The banking system as we know it is going belly up! however, if you find that the money you receive is burning a hole in your wallet and your just dying to throw it to the wind I live in the west an there's a large basket in front of my house. 8)
Anon Antag I wouldn’t leave that basket unattended if I were you ;). The point of my original question may have been a bit cryptic but I meant if debts are going to be forgiven shortly due to the banking system going belly up why give the money to the banksters? (read NESARA). In relation to the cash burning a hole in one’s wallet – don’t throw it into the wind, who knows where it might end up? ;) Consider starting a foundation/charity instead – it’s what I’ll be doing.Blessings
D Can you please tell me what the e-mail address is also? Thank you very much.
so far just getting spam in my inbox which i did not get before applying yay!
Spam? Really?I recently applied, and my SPAM box is still EMPTY, as usual.
No spam here either, but if you want to stop spam go to spamfighter.com great tool!Direct link:http://www.spamfighter.com/SPAMfighter/Product_Info.asp
Is it normal not to receive a confirmation e-mail.
very few will receive an email or call- only if you have a problem wiht your application like missing information
When I applied I said that there were friends and co workers that i knew who were struggling that i would like to help. Clayton emailed me saying that the funds were only for you and your household & if I knew of other people in need to hurry & get them to apply on their own. They are still taking applications.
"Reason(s) for applying for grant (please be brief)Examples - personal hardship due to:"I really hope my reasons for applying were not TOO brief as to give cause for my not being considered to be helped. I know they must be swamped with applications/requests/pleas so I wanted to be as succinct as possible while still ensuring my dire situation was adequately conveyed. BTS and others, do you think that if I had been too brief (several broad shortlist reasons) instead of going into 'verge-of-begging' details and multiple paragraphs of my situation, that I will be less likely to be considered? I've not received a confirmation (applied several days ago) and I know it has been said that not all will receive a confirmation. I wanted to stress how dire my situation is and how very much I need for these individuals to accept my request for their assistance, but also wanted to follow their directions of keeping my reasons extremely brief. Thank you for your time. I wish for you all that you have been and will be accepted. Love and wellness to you all.
You have applied. You have opened a door. Your attitude that you share here is somewhat counter-productive, energetically, in my opinion (which is worthless, I suppose, as you don't know me) but anyway, I advise you to be at peace, in the knowledge that anything intended for you will come to you, and as you have INTENDED to become a recipient of some of this fund, relax.
Think you'll be fine. I get the impression from the application they are looking for 1-3 bullet point items, with maybe 3 or 4 words per item on average.
I imagine that any application (assuming the individual meets whatever basic requirements those handling these things have), no matter how it is laid out, will be acceptable because if this is genuine, they will not reject an application because of the format or the wording or the level of detail included. Relax everybody, please. No good will come of this angst, second-guessing, stress, etc., that I'm seeing in so many of these comments. :)
I applied for this on Nov 11th, and I pray this is all real, because my Family desperately could use this help. My Son who lives in a different state also applied because he is in desperate need of help as well. Neither one of us got any kind of response back, but I am believing in my heart that this is real and am not losing faith. Peace and love to all
I read all comments and all I can say is good luck to you. I won't be applying till there is hard proof that this isn't a scam and is for real. I want to see this in the mainstream news and the elites need to be arrested or they will just steal it anyway. If you guys are in debt, don't throw good money after bad, simply default instead. If this is for real and I ever apply and ever receive the few thousand dollars, it will go to food and medical expenses.
These comments are like watching a horse become a donkey. Just apply and then don't think anymore about it. If you are lucky you will receive a check and be very blessed. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Think of it as a fun game and ask yourself if your vibration is tuned to receive.
HERE IS MY QUESTION;Rob is having horrible financial problems. Does he know about this? Cobra needs money, too. Does he know about this?Well, IF the answer is NO - then I'm stunned.If the answer is YES - then how come that nobody is talking about this on the Cobra's site?Most people know only about that site, not this one.Even after returning from the Laguna Conf., I forgot ALL about this one!BTS, There is something different I want to talk to you. So, if it's possible, please contact me.Thank You.
Hye- contact me at email@example.com
Thank YOU, darling!I did it last night, almost at 11:59pm, or could be exactly at 12:00AM. BUT I WILL SEND ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT NOW.
With the new email address as provided in the Edited section above, there seems to be an obvious question. For all of us who had applied through the previous email address, are we supposed to re-apply through this new one? Even though they have specifically stated elsewhere that we only apply once?In other words, are the previous applications automatically being transferred into the processing procedure, or do we have to apply all over again, so as not to miss the boat?Stupid maybe, but I can't figure out what they really want us to do.
if you sent the email application, you dont' need to do it again :>)D
Merry, it would seem that if you have already applied then just leave it as is. For whatever reasons they are now taking applications at another site. It's simple enough.
It seems to me that all the email applications were received up until the moment when the automatic reply with new instructions was activated. Agreed, BTS? Again, thank you for making us all aware of this opportunity! :)
exactly- poor Clayton's email inbox was exploding and they couldn't keep up so switched to the new method- but it doesn't change anything if you've already applied.
the new site to send applications appears to be a "trustee" site and it seems to me it is for "vetting" applicants.
the new instructions may be a good sign of moving forward in the vetting of applicants & speeding up the process.
I need help.please send me an application.
all you have to do is follow the links inthe article above my friend.
please send me the application. please I was thrown out of my house when my ex husband decided to move in his new girlfriend. I was homeless for 6months befor afriend took me in.
Apply at whichever link applies to you listed in this post above by Anonymous21 December 2012 17:36
Please cancel my application. I think I must have signed up a long time ago. I prefer not to be greedy. I am getting along okay. Thanks, Jelco9584@netzero.net Jack E Lang
Happy Hoilday, I have apply last nite on Resore America blog plan I saw John posted on St. Germaine Trust application. I do pray this will Manifest for all who apply. And u know,long before know if we qualitfy for grant. All I know God in it it will come to pass. With a doubt. That my faith. To all stay pray up and Trust your Faith. God bless everyone for 2013
DRAKE is saying this grant is all BS
I never heard Drake say that. What episode and approx. how many minutes into it?I did hear him say to the affect that it is apparently legitimate.That was in a recent episode.
A friend who is the SGT representative down under has confirmed that this is legitimate, that those who are most in need were always meant to receive first.SharenPrecious words Sharen, soon we shall see them fulfilled... GalacticJack
Greetings and blessings to all.I am based in the UK and had originally applied for a grant on the 10th November 2012 to the email address. I have not heard anything in response since that time although of course I give tremendous consideration and respect to the scale of this gracious operation and how busy the people must be who are administrating this mission. I have used the international grant application today (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/7PVSJW8) and have emailed Clayton as well. Am hoping for response and some news of this blessed and gracious offer that is so much needed at this time.Much love and light to all.
Applied a few minutes ago via the US survey link. Let's see what happens.
I just sent in an application, but have a good friend in worse shape than I. She can't apply because she does not have a computer, so does not have an email address, either. Is there any other way to apply? How can I help my friend?
Set up a gmail account (email) for her - it's free - then sign her up from your computer - using the new gmail account you set up for her
Today I read on a dinar website that someone had conversations w/Clayton & that Clayton said that he found out that the person he was gathering names & addresses for does NOT represent ST. Germaine. That they only used that name to attract attention & to add legitimacy. So not to be negative, but FYI we might've all be taken for a ride. Somebody that has intel/contacts might want to investigate into this a bit perhaps RTS/D since RTS promoted clayton & the signing up for it on their blog. Thank you for your time & consideration.
i RECEIVED THIS PERSONAL EMAIL FROM cLAYTON ON 22/1/13 IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION i SENTMarty:The grant program is now independent of the St. Germaine Trust which is being blocked from releasing any funds to anyone. This grant program was closed on January 7, 2013. I was told it is intended to re-open this grant program later this year, but I do not know when. I am just a grant facilitator, meaning I simply process the grant requests and submit them all. I am not the grant program administrator and am not privy to the why and wherefores of the grant funding.RegardsClayton HannaGrant facilitator
The last couple of post above might be from agents, so don't believe all the negative posts on here.
This is VERY suspicious upon closer examination:1. They REQUIRE a residential street address, PERIOD.2. If anyone is TRULY homeless and can only get a delivery at a friend's business it's a total no-go.3. They claim the 'gifts' will come by 'courier', but refuse to disclose what they mean by that...4. How can anyone know it is not just an info-gathering scheme to find/identify isolated people ??I got a follow-up email from 'Elaine', then a voicemail from her (at a private number) telling me to call her at (250) 489-3054.She speaks corpy-speak in a very soothing way - but makes it very clear that unless you're at a specific PHYSICAL address to get the 'delivery' you're just outta luck.(Makes me want to see if there's a little red laser-dot shining on my forehead...it's very creepy.)My personal take on this as a homeless, middle-aged male:A possibly suicidal thing to get involved in to get non-existent 'money'.I did not give any more info and won't be near where I said I was when I applied.Untrusting ?!? Yes. Definitely.In 2013 with all the krap going on lately ?!? Sure, I'm in a HUGE hurry to tell faceless strangers where I've found that's safe for sleeping.NOT.
I must correct a bit of the above in all honesty:A bit later I got another VM from the same woman saying that it is possible to use a street address which will appear as a C/O, but if it is a business it cannot have the business name.It can only be in the 'applicant' name.So perhaps it is not quite as suspicious as my original impression seemed, but still, it seems best to use care in such a mysterious thing.
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