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Showing posts with label Karen Hudes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Karen Hudes. Show all posts

Thursday, 27 March 2014

Karen Hudes, David Crayford and ME- From RMN

There has been an on going conversation on Rumor Mill News, back and forth between David Crayford and I, for the past two or three days.   As the conversation links have slid so far down the RMN main page, I am posting the on going conversation here for transparency.


It all started with the posting of an article, originally from Philosophyofmetrics HERE, between JC Collins and  Karen Hudes on RMN which can be found HERE

I am not going to get into the details of it, but highly recommend reading it as Collins writing is very insightful and thought provoking at the best of times, and very humorous in this instance.

As Hudes brought up David Crawford in her communications with Collins (god knows why) and David Crawford responded on RMN HERE

I have never been a fan or follower of Crawford, but  in this instance, his comments are excellent and a good portion of the information he gives is WAY closer to accurate than the disinfo that Hudes is spreading.

I will  post the conversations from RMN between Crawford and myself in the order that they were posted.


“And who is David Crayford”? I am the official spokesperson for the ITC / OITC, that is who

Posted By: igots2no [Send E-Mail]
Date: Tuesday, 25-Mar-2014 08:51:24

In Response To: The Karen Hudes Operation (igots2no)

        Dear Dimce,

        Ref: to the article as referred below, which needs further input.

        The Rumor Mill News Reading Room
        The Karen Hudes Operation
        Posted By: igots2no [Send E-Mail]Date: Monday, 24-Mar-2014 21:48:02

        I have just finished reading the article (as referenced above) on RMN http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=303377 and the website https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/UBS+UNCUT.pdf and feel compelled to respond to this because once again, it gives a small part of the story, sufficient to mislead people, but it doesn’t give the whole part of the story which shows a completely different picture.

        Allow me to start with the uncut US Dollar Notes. These are NOT the normal US Dollar Notes currently in circulation, referred by many as Federal Reserve Notes. They are in fact the “Reagan Dollars” or otherwise known as the “Asian Dollar”. These were printed in the Philippines and China for a purpose which is a “Common Currency” for the whole of the South East Asia Region (Ten (10) countries to be precise). In fact there were Trillions of these Dollar Notes printed which are all mainly in storage in China, but there are some in the Philippines, as well as within UBS (The European Agent for the Federal Reserve). China have been attempting to do a deal with the Americans on these Notes based upon a 50/50 basis.

        This “Common Currency” was supposed to have been initiated in 1998 but it all collapsed because the 10 Asian countries involved rejected it because they did not desire to be controlled by the Federal Reserve. Introduction of this currency was then rescheduled for 2004 but again it collapsed because the 10 countries rejected it.
        This is what all the arguments are partially about re: Thaksin Shinawatra (Former P.M. Of Thailand, convicted criminal and fugitive from justice) and his Sister (the current Prime Minister of Thailand). The fact is they are working very closely with the Americans, along with other leaders of some of the Asian countries involved, reference to the introduction of the Asian Dollar.
        With reference to the Gold backing for this currency, there are three vitally important issues here which will open people’s eyes and allow them to understand these things better:-

        A). Although Marcos executed this agreement with Ronald Reagan, he later pulled out of the agreement and rescinded same, because he had established what the Americans were really trying to do, and it certainly was not for Humanitarian purposes as indicated within the agreement. It was for political purposes combined with a common currency controlled by the Federal Reserve. Total control over the the 10 Asian countries achieved by devious means.
        Americans had under-mined Marcos reference to the ABL currency (a Common Currency for the 10 countries of South East Asia which was Gold Backed) which the 10 countries had previously agreed to under International Treaty (Note: I have those Treaties on record).
        Now you know some of the reasons why Marcos, in the eyes of America, had to go. Haven’t we all seen similar instances in the more recent years.

        B). The second vital point here is that Marcos withdrew the Gold he had previously agreed to reference / allocate to the aforesaid agreement. Therefore this “Reagan Dollar” or other referred to as the “Asian Dollar” is just “Fiat” currency with no real value, and certainly hasn’t got any Gold backing it.

        C). The third point is equally important, and probably the most important. That is the January 1995 Treaty agreements executed by the Nations of the World which appointed a Legal Heir to Decadency, a legal Owner, Sole Arbiter, and Controller, of the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility, otherwise known as the Collateral Accounts, Global Accounts, Global Debt Facility. That person was Dr. Ray C. Dam, the former Gold Signatory to the G7, and just like Marcos, Ray Dam had to go.
        These 1995 agreements and the content thereof, superseded all other previous agreements entered into by the Americans with any Holder, Custodian, Signatory, etc of the Collateral Accounts, prior to 1995, and there are many of them, all of which are voided, invalidated, and legally unenforceable.
        This being the real situation, then that agreement executed by Marcos and Reagan as shown within the said article / report, is legally void, is now invalid, and legally unenforceable. So in simple terms, it means nothing and holds no legal substance whatsoever.

        The real question now is who is trying to mislead the public into believing something which legally no longer is valid and has no meaning whatsoever.

        Let me now attend to specific and important issues in reference to the article written by J C Collins within the aforementioned web article:- https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/UBS+UNCUT.pdf

        i). I have to agree with J C Collins’s comments, quote “it is my contention that she is the lead figure in a psychological operation meant to distract away from real events and processes happening in the world”.
        Karen Hudes has proven nothing yet, other than having a small amount of information which she believes is the whole picture, followed by the constant repetitiveness of her interviews and the deviation to other subjects within her comments.

        ii). The statement, quote “The truth that your blog is evading has to do with the source of financing for the Ukrainian revolt and whether it was fomented by nonindigenous forces”.
        The real truth of the matter is that the Ukrainian situation was unlawfully financed by the Collateral Accounts through unlawful use of assets of the Collateral Accounts by the Federal Reserve within an illicit “Trading” program. It is all part of their “One World Currency” Doctrine propagated by America and its Allies.

        iii). The statement, quote “My original sources, cloaked in illegal secrecy, are impeccable. I challenge you to inform your readers by publishing them:”
        If your sources are “Cloaked in illegal secrecy”then why are you condoning such illegal secrecy by a). Stating same, and b). Requesting that J.C. Collins publish them??????

        iv). The statement, quote “I simply cited the Green Hilton Agreement so that people would know what John F. Kennedy was doing that caused the Jesuits to murder him. David Crayford is deliberately trying to undermine me by attributing to me positions that I do not hold. This is what is known as a “straw man” argument. I never said that the Green Hilton Agreement was now in force and effect”.
        You keep quoting the “Green Hilton Agreement” even after I have advised that it is legally invalid and unenforceable, WHY ????????? Why do you keep quoting “The Green Hilton Agreement” when you now openly state, quote “I never said that the Green Hilton Agreement was now in force and effect”. You must have a belief that it is in legal effect and enforceable, hence why you keep quoting it, so you are in fact contradicting yourself Ms Hudes.

        I am trying to undermine you am I, by attributing to you positions that you do not hold. You stated yourself that after your dismissal from the World Bank, you were reinstated, so I only attributed to you your last position as you have publicly stated. In fact Ms Hudes, you have undermined yourself in many ways because you really do not know what you are talking about. It doesn’t need me to undermine you at all, why, because eventually all misinformation agents run out of steam and start repeating themselves or changing the subject. You have totally undermined yourself, but typical, you, like all others, have to shift the blame onto someone else. Don’t blame me for your own misgivings Ms. Hudes.

        v). The statement, quote “And who is David Crayford”?
        I am the official spokesperson for the ITC / OITC, that is who. The ITC being the Legal Heir, Owner, Sole Arbiter, and Controller of the Combined International Collateral Accounts of the Global Debt Facility, otherwise referred to as the Collateral Accounts, the Global Accounts, the Global Debt Facility.

        vi). The statement, quote “The legal authority for the issuance of the uncut dollars that John F. Kennedy printed https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/UBS+UNCUT.pdf comes from the Bilateral Agreement, (see paragraph 6, giving the World Bank and IMF legal authority over the Collateral Account.) https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/BILATERAL.pdf
        Boy, oh boy, someone really has got their lines crossed here. Quote “that John F. Kennedy printed” What BS. These were authorised under Reagan not Kennedy, even the agreement was signed by Reagan not Kennedy, whereby there were to be the new “Asian Dollar”, otherwise known as the “Reagan Dollar”, the common currency of the 10 South East Asian countries which was rejected by said countries because they did not desire to be controlled by the Federal Reserve. For information purposes there is a period of 18 years and 59 days between the Presidency of JFK and that of R Reagan.
        As for the, quote “comes from the Bilateral Agreement, (see paragraph 6, giving the World Bank and IMF legal authority over the Collateral Account.)”.
        Ferdinand Marcos withdrew from that agreement when he realised what the Americans were up to, so the agreement is void and has no legal basis nor is it enforceable at any times. This Bilateral Agreement, whether considered legal by one Nation, or otherwise, was superseded by the January 1995 Treaty agreements between the Nations of the World. These agreements were also based upon the 1976 agreements, the 1980 agreements, and of course the 1995 agreements, and now the May 2012 agreements. The World Bank and IMF, DO NOT have Legal Authority over the Collateral Accounts. That is where the World Bank and IMF are committing fraud because they claim something which they have no legal right to claim and there are no legal agreements in force to substantiate their claim.

        There is another issue here Ms Hudes, that being that at the time you were Senior Legal Counsel to the World Bank so you must be aware of the illegality of these agreements you refer to. At the same time you must also be aware of many other illegal agreements initiated by the World Bank reference to the Collateral Accounts. You may have also been a signatory to some of the agreements, if not externally, then internally, which makes you complicit in fraud against the Collateral Accounts, Ms Hudes.

        vii). The statement, quote “I have been reinstated by the Board of Governors of the World Bank and IMF as the Acting General Counsel of the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.”.
        Am I wrong in stating that the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development is the former name for the World Bank. Research shows, quote “Established in 1944 as the original institution of the World Bank Group”, and quote “It was established in 1944 with the mission of financing the reconstruction of European nations devastated by World War II. Together, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development and its concessional lending arm, the International Development Association, are collectively known as the World Bank as they share the same leadership and staff”. In fact it is the very same organisation Ms Hudes. If I am correct, what game are you playing here Ms Hudes.

        ix). The statement, quote “The Board of Governors of the World Bank has authorized the release of the uncut US dollars from Union Bank of Switzerland https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Karen-Hudes+(2).jpg in accordance with the instructions of the authorized signatory, Wolfgang Struck. The banking cartel is illegally refusing to release the uncut US dollars printed by John F. Kennedy. Instead, the banking cartel wants to engineer the collapse of the US dollar.”
        Neither the Board of Governors, the World Bank, or Union Bank of Switzerland (Proper name is United Bank of Switzerland based upon when they were taken over by SBC some years ago. They still like to use the words Union Bank because people have short memories and publicly it appears to be the same bank, when in reality it isn’t); hold any authority over the “uncut dollars”.
        You will find that because of the various agreements regarding these “Uncut Dollars” and International Treaties, these “Uncut Dollars” were transferred to the Collateral Accounts so that they could not be used by the issuers at any time in the future.

        Wolfgang Struck is NOT THE AUTHORISED SIGNATORY as is claimed, and that can be proven legally.

        Why is the banking cartel refusing to release the “Uncut Dollars” .......... Probably because they know the truth and with many already facing severe financial penalties and possibly later, fraud charges, they are being ultra careful not in involve themselves with persons who are not who they claim to be, Ms. Hudes.

        x). The statement, quote “You should follow me on Twitter, @KarenHudes as I will have nothing further to do with Rumor Mill News. David Crayford deliberately removed the thread of links that would have enabled his readers to understand my information”.
        Now you are trying to blame me for something I have absolutely no control over, Ms. Hudes. How cheap, foolish, and very low in character you are making yourself look Ms. Hudes.
        The issue of whether an article is published or not by RMN is entirely at the discretion of the Administrators of that site, Ms. Hudes, not me.
        I have no legal or financial connection to RMN at all, so I have no control over anything they do or say.
        Get your facts right Ms. Hudes and stop misinforming people with your gossip.

        A lot of whatever you say Ms. Hudes is mere speculation and supposition. Whether you care to believe it or not, I am, not only a lawyer but more of an authority on the subject of the Collateral Accounts than what you will ever believe.

        In my opinion, you are a misinformation agent, putting out an awful amount of BS for the people to believe, when in fact they should be rejecting and discarding it. We attempted to inform you of various factors that are all verifiable, but you even refused to accept our envelope that was delivered to you, because you did not want to involve yourself with “Top Secret” matters.

        All I can say Ms. Hudes, is in that case, do not get involved with the Collateral Accounts and the fraudulent goings on at the World Bank and the IMF, because this is a “Top Secret” matter and no one will ever get to the truth unless they hold one of the highest International security level classification ratings, which normally is held only by Kings, Queens, Presidents, and Prime Ministers as well as the International Treasury Controller, and NO, Ms. Hudes, we are NOT cabal and do not adhere to the cabal’s policies, or the One World Order.

        We are a “SOVEREIGN ENTITY” completely independent from Politics (National or International) or religion, with our own jurisdiction, and one that stands above and beyond all other “Sovereign Nations”.

        We don’t want you in the picture stirring up the muddy waters because you, like others, just impede our objectives and prevent us from doing our job ........... Perhaps that is your purpose Ms. Hudes?????????????

        David P. Crayford.

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D from RTS has comments for David Crayford

Posted By: igots2no [Send E-Mail]
Date: Tuesday, 25-Mar-2014 22:21:08

In Response To: “And who is David Crayford”? I am the official spokesperson for the ITC / OITC, that is who (igots2no)

        D from RTS writes:

        Standing round of applause! While I do not agree with Crawford on many things, his outline in this article is WAY closer to the actual facts than the drivel that Hudes tried to sell to the public. The Reagan dollars ARE in China- there are literally vaults filled with pallets of this currency scam and they are completely useless and have 0 value at all. NOTHING that Reagan did was for the "betterment of man" nor "humanitarian" ..... The Wanta Reagan Mitterand accords/theft is a glaring tribute to that, along with the Marcos debacle.

        The ponzi scam "money" that financed the Ukraine's protests (and syria etc) was not from the Collateral Accounts though- the accounts are locked down and even the two people who were the ONLY two who had access to the accounts, are now locked out. The money that has been used is part of the ridiculous make believe money shuffling and monetary slight of hand tricks which the Fed has been using for the past year to keep up the illusion that all is well in Economicland.

        As for the "Green Hilton Agreements" I have a copy of them myself and spent quite a bit of time searching for verification of their validity. I have found none, and have found no one that can provide ANY proof that they were even actually signed, let alone put into play.

        Hudes is STILL employed for the World Bank. That alone speaks louder than words- and by the very ommission of well known information that anyone in her position would possess- ie: what is the value, where it comes from, how money is created, the fact that all these governments are actually corporations who are controlled by the banksters.... she is proclaiming openly that she is a disinformationist.

        Right now, there is a HUGE web is misinformation and disinformation being spread across the internet and around the world. The idea is to give enough truth to get your attention... then spawn very believable lies to muddy the waters and distract from the actual truth and facts of what is going on. With anyone like Hudes, it's more important to hear what she does NOT say, than to listen to what she IS saying. Take notice of the topics that she does NOT talk about, pay attention to the things that she tosses off as lies, but then hurries away to talk about something else entirely. This goes for anyone blowing the whistle from an official position.

        There is a LOT of truth coming out in the media right now- more than ever before, which is why I started Transpicuous News, to show the glaring transparency that is flooding out. All you need to do is pay attention to what is being said and not said.... it's all right there in black and white.

        As I said, while I don't agree with Crawford on a lot of things..... great article!!! Thank you!

        love D

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David Crayford responds to D from RTS

Posted By: igots2no [Send E-Mail]
Date: Wednesday, 26-Mar-2014 08:44:58

In Response To: D from RTS has comments for David Crayford (igots2no)

        David Crayford writes:

        I am pleased to see that someone other than the likes of Keenan, Hudes, Drake, Wilcock, Casper, and others, does not agree with many factors that I state. I welcome that as it leads to good open discussion and further understandings regarding a very complex subject.

        However, I would like to point out a couple of issues with Reader D’s comments.

        If I may just correct you on one issue. It is Crayford not Crawford, or in the case of Keenan who refers to me as Crayfish.

        The second issue is, quote “The ponzi scam "money" that financed the Ukraine's protests (and syria etc) was not from the Collateral Accounts though- the accounts are locked down and even the two people who were the ONLY two who had access to the accounts, are now locked out”.

        We are fully aware that the accounts have been locked down. That is an effort to stop all the fraud that has existed for decades. However, and as I certainly would expect, the crooks have found a way around all of this. This is where you have misunderstood what I have previously written.
        One way is that the Federal Reserve have been trading Petchilli Bonds, Mexican Bonds, etc for a considerable time, building up a ‘slush Fund’ in conjunction with other crooks mainly the CIA and NSA. When this was realised this trading was blocked, but now they have moved onto the Kennedy Bonds and trading through the various International Banks.
        That too is now blocked and being locked down. The aforesaid ‘slush fund’ has yet to be located but it has been split into numerous accounts in various parts of the world under pseudonym names, so it will take time to locate all of it. In the meantime they are using these funds for financing covert operations which does include the Ukrainian situation. I did briefly explain this in my previous article by stating the words ‘by the Federal Reserve within an illicit “Trading” program’.

        A second factor is that we are aware that a Signatory of an account, which is not the original signatory but a former NSA/CIA employee who was deliberately and purposely placed into the Signatory position of one of the Trusts, so that access for illicit activities could take place quite easily. That person gave the access and other codes to Prince Bandar (This happened before the ‘Lock down’ of the accounts) who accessed the Federal Reserve ‘Blue Screens’ and immediately removed $32 billion US Dollars. By following the money trail, this money, or a large part of it, was used to finance insurgency in Syria. Prince Bandar, or the Saudi Royal Family, will now have to pay this $32 billion back, whether they like it or not.

        That is all I need to say to Reader D, other than Thank You for your comments.


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Reply to David Crayford from D of RTS

Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Wednesday, 26-Mar-2014 18:27:16

In Response To: David Crayford responds to D from RTS (igots2no)

        (Thanks, D. :)

        Reader D. of RemovingTheShackles replies:

        =====

        Hi David- Sorry about misspelling your name!

        As for the Collateral accounts. Actually the money didn't come from the accounts- because they are locked down.... BUT.... what the lovely money digger thieves did was to mirror the accounts, using them as.... "collateral", lol! When they discovered in late 2012 that even the signatories could not access the biometric security systems, they created a sort of ETF to Mirror the accounts, and claimed the funds that are locked down as collateral for the money they magically created through the ETF Mirror. Nice eh? I think that you'll find that the "slush fund" you are looking for is the mirrored ETF that, if I remember correctly, was run through UBS.

        Before the security system locked out the two signatories in 2012, they- the thieves- use to access the accounts by quasi kidnapping the two of them, having them open the accounts and then dropping them off back home while they money thieves ran off with the "dough".

        And yes it IS good to have these conversations and to pull all this info out into the publics awareness.... this is how people SEE the incredible fraud that has been going on.

        D

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As a side note, Heather and Bill and I did a lot of research into the ETFs a while ago.  Bill posted this into one of the skype rooms:

[3/26/2014 8:29:37 PM] 🌴  AK 🌴: ETF=EXCHANGE TRADED FUND...
[3/26/2014 8:35:43 PM] 🌴  AK 🌴: Exchange traded funds are mirror accounts by definition. For example an ETF of the SP500 mirrors the SP500 index. ETFs are created by firms like Goldman Sachs, and they buy the underlying stock and create a mirror in the ETF called a "CREATION UNIT" there is supposed to be a 1-to-1 correspondence in these but its not closely regulated, its just assumed something real backs the ETF.   Heather, D and I were researching these a few months back and we thought perhaps that was how they were now hiding the birth certificate bonds, in ETFs, it severs the accounting trail to the underlying security by laundering it thru the "creation unit"...
[3/26/2014 8:36:25 PM] 🌴  AK 🌴: I think its also a way in a pinch to nab the underlying asset while crashing the ETF funds...


I strongly suspect that THIS is how they managed to keep the broken system going for a little while longer- by mirroring funds and using the original's as collateral.  But now even that isn't working for them any more because you still have to have investors to buy into the ETFs and be able to convince them that these "investments" are a great way to make a profit.   Unfortunately for the PTW, the investors are no longer playing that game- they have been burned far too many times to just accept something at face value now.    The newest rage is  "SHOW ME  THE MONEY!!"

.... and when no one can show them the money..... well, it's starting to make all these "investors" just a weeeeee bit leery.  The MSM can talk the talk about "economic recovery" and all this crap to th egeneral public, but the financial circles and groups are smarter than your average bear, and they KNOW the real deal is dead.





Monday, 4 November 2013

To Bank or Not to Bank, that is the question.

First off, before I get started, I want to apologize- to you the readers and to Heather for the mistaken titles that I picked for the articles that I put out a few days ago with all of the Declarations in them.  I will be re-titling the articles as soon as I finish this article so that there is no more confusion. 

A few days ago I published the articles  "New Banking Docs: Original PDFs", and  "Declaration of Deposit, Receipt, Conversion, & Account: Banking Documents".   I need to clarify this microscopically, in full transparency: The titles stating "Banking Docs" were NOT Heather's words nor her choice of title.  At no time has Heather called these documents "Banking document", because they are not.  They are Declarations that stand alone or together.   I titled the articles "Banking docs" because I thought it was the best way to get everyone's attention..... it wasn't until I spoke with Heather this morning that I even realized the mistake I had made in calling the Declarations "Banking Docs".

These Declarations CAN be used if someone chooses to interact, or "play", with the banks.  Yes, absolutely.  But these documents are Declarations that stand alone or work together, that declare that you are Eternal Essence, you are I and what your value IS and who has control of it and how to work with other perceptions of I with your value.  

Again, I apologize for  putting words in Heather's mouth that she did NOT speak and for confusing people with the use of the words "banking documents" in the titles of these two articles.

Below are a few of the conversations that have been happening in various skype rooms on the topic of using the Declarations in a banking system.  I give my point of view on certain aspects and caution that people need to understand FULLY all parts and ramifications of dealing with the banks.  At the very bottom I share a conversation between Heather, Bill (AK) and I about Karen Hudes, the purported "Whistleblower".... LITTERALLY from The World Bank.



XXXX: After a night of serious discussion and a few hours of sleep- my niece has asked me to let her send you a message here on Skype since she has been dissecting all of what we have been discussing and reading all of the documents Heather provided- she is a Senior Financial officer for one of our illustrious banks! But at this time, shall remain anonymous.  I am going to hit the CAPS button and she is taking it away!  HELLO TO ALL OF YOU. I AM AMAZED AT ALL OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN MISSING. THE WORK TOWARD A BETTER WORLD IS AMAZING TO ME. I  DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU AND SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER WHAT I HAVE TO SAY BUT ULTIMATELY FOLLOW YOUR OWN HEART (heart) I CAME TO MY AUNT AS SHE HAS BEEN MY ROCK SINCE I WAS A CHILD. I VALUE HER WISDOM. MY STRUGGLE IS THAT I AM TORN WITH LIVING IN DARKNESS DURING THE DAY AND FOLLOWING MY HEART WHEN ASSISTING MY CLIENTS BUT IT IS IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT MY BOSSES EXPECT. TODAY I HAD TO FACE MY BOSS WHO REMINDED ME THAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR BANK PROFIT (devil) BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I WISH TO DISCUSS HERE.  MY  PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT WE DONT NEED MONEY BECAUSE MONEY IS AN ILLUSION.  MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT WE NEED A MASS AWAKENING TOWARD COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND THAT IS WHERE OUR ENERGY NEEDS TO BE CHANNELED TOWARD.  CO-OP GARDENS, CO-OP RUN HOMELESS SHELTERS-  ESTABLISH DONATION CENTERS.   EVERYTHING IS OURS TO BEGIN WITH. THERE IS NO SEPARATION FROM GOD- THAT IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO EMBRACE.  MY AUNT EXPLAINED THAT WHAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING IS A "BRIDGE CONCEPT"  TO ASSIST IN THIS BEAUTIFUL TRANSITION WE ARE ALL MAKING.  MY OPINION AGAIN IS THAT IF PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD HOW CORRUPT THE BANKING SYSTEM IS; THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PLAYING WITH THE MAFIA. I WATCH A TV SERIES CALLED "THE BLACKLIST" ABOUT AN INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL  WORKING WITH THE FBI TO CAPTURE OTHER INTERNATIONAL CRIMINALS AND AT THE BEGINNING HE IS ASKED WHY THEY COULD TRUST HIM AND HIS RESPONSE IS "YOU CANNOT TRUST ME (LAUGHS) I AM A CRIMINAL". BANKS HAVE ONE INTEREST AND THAT IS THEIR INTEREST. WHAT I SEE IN MY BANK AND  MY BOSSES,  MY DIVISION ARE CORRUPT. THE PLANS BEING DISCUSSED IN SHANGHAI CHINA FOR THE USA AS WE SPEAK- INFORMATION THAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY EMAILED TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE THE SAME NAME - AND WHEN I TOLD "WHOEVER" IT WAS THAT I WAS NOT THE PERSON THEY SEEK- I RECEIVED AN EMAIL INSTRUCTING ME TO DELETE THE ENTIRE STRING OF EMAILS WHICH WERE VERY CONCERNING  OF THE INNER WORK HAPPENING- AND THEN MY BOSS ASKED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO MY COMPUTER TO OUR BANK'S COMPUTER TECH SO THEY COULD INSURE THAT THE EMAILS HAD BEEN DELETED AND NOT PRINTED.  (ANOTHER REASON I CAME TO MY AUNT AS IT HAS SHAKEN ME TO MY CORE). LAYERS UPON LAYERS OF CORRUPTION. SO MY PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT MY AUNT HAS PROVIDED ME IS THAT THE BANKING SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY FINISHED HOWEVER THE BANKS ARE WORKING FEVERISHLY BEHIND THE SCENES TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE.  I WENT TO A WEEK LONG MEETING IN NEW YORK AND I AM STILL TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO KEEP MYSELF IN HELL DURING THE DAY AND THE LIGHT AT NIGHT AND ON WEEKENDS?  I AM STRUGGLING.  I THINK ANY GAME PLAYED WITH THE BANK IS A DANGEROUS ONE. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR LIFE AND YOU JUST MIGHT BE GIVING IT TO THEM.  REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE CRIMINALS AND THE PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH ARE FOR THE MOST PART CLUELESS. THE ONES THAT WILL MAKE A CHOICE AS TO WHETHER THEY SHOULD ACCEPT YOUR VALUE ARE THE ONES BEHIND THE SCENES LICKING THEIR CHOPS.  VICTIMS WILLINGLY PROVIDING THEM THE LIFE ESSENCE THEY NEED. MY OPINION AS I NEED TO ABSORB WHAT I HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY MY AUNT.  BE CAREFUL AS PLAYING WITH ANY BANK. I MAY BE WRONG AS I AM NOT FULLY AWARE OF "ALL" BUT BE CAREFUL. THIS  IS A DANGEROUS GAME FROM "MY PERSPECTIVE" OF WHAT I SEE, KNOW, AND LIVE AND  IN MY POSITION. (PS: MY AUNT TOLD ME I AM A LIGHT IN THE DARK. I NEED TO FIND PEACE AND ACCEPT THAT I COULD BECOME THE INSIDE ASSET. SO WHO KNOWS HOW I WILL FEEL TOMORROW)  LOVE TO YOU ALL. I AM GOING ON A LONG HIKING TO TRIP TODAY TO CONNECT WITH EARTH. I WILL CHECK WITH MY AUNT FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND TO FURTHER MY OWN KNOWLEDGE- I AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING! YOU HAVE HELPED ME IMMENSELY. I HAVE A LOT TO PONDER OVER TODAY.

D: thank you darlin- can you have your niece contact me?  and may I share this note in other rooms?  Very Well Said.  Take note my friends.

ZZZZ:  the people in these chat rooms and other like-minded folk are not going to use this money to pay off fraudulent debts so the those licking their chops can suck it, cuz there not getting anything else.

D:  it doesn't matter if they pay of fraudulent debts or not.  the banks are STILL getting your VALUE to play with.

Let me outline what they do with money in the accounts that people think they own:

John comes into a small inheritance and deposits his $100,000 into "His" bank account.  The manager tells him lovely things about how the bank will look after his money.  John goes home with a slip that shows that he deposited $100,000 into his savings account at his friendly neighbourhood XYZ bank.

When 5pm hits the banks close and lock the front doors of the bank with fancy hi tech locks and  closes the swanky hi tech vaults and John is satisfied that his money is safe.  What John doesn't know is that at 5:01 the bank pulls every penny out of his account and plays with it on the night time roulette market and put John's money into an ETF that gets mirrored and bounced around all night. 

At 7:59 the next morning John's money is back in his account so when he goes to the debit machine to withdraw $50 for gas he sees his balance and smiles. What john doesn't know is that while he was peacefully sleeping, the bank made $10,000 off of John's money and the executives are all partying their asses off with cookers and hocaine.

..... So.... you go into the bank and you tell them 'I want to deposit $1 million dollars of my value into your bank".... and that "value" will be translated into dollars or pounds or euros etc... and will be deposited into a shiny new account right beside John's.  And at 5:01 your $1 million dollars will disappear into the after hours trading market and into an ETF mirror funds and they will make $200,000 dollars that night off of your value which you transferred into dollars and put into their bank.

 ZZZZ "<<< Furthermore, XXXX, you don't have to play with these banks. No one said you did."

D:  I think that XXXX's niece is just trying to caution those who are planning on go into the banks,  not a commentary on anyone forcing anyone to do it.


YYYY:  <<< ZZZZ that will only remove my payroll taxes from their coffers. I still feed that monster by buying stuff

D:  bingo

Heather:  the niece is SPOT ON......and the data is reconfirmed a million times over......each and every inbodyment must make the choice from within.....

ZZZZ " D, Love, if cookers and hocaine is how they choose to play then so be it. ;)"
 I'm aware of their after-hours shenanigans
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D: .then you realize that that is how the banks make the majority of their money then?


VVVV " > Hmmm - pondering this D.  My HEART (heart) indicates that any DOing that IS done NOW that IS not for the highest GOOD of ALL will not BE energetically supported (inlove) (bow)(d)(F)(inlove)"

ZZZZ:  Exactly!


 D:  and I absolutely agree with that too.  hence the fact that everyone plays their part.  As did kiri and bob going to the banks- it was important events.  I am not saying DON'T go to the banks.  I am saying that I agree with shieena's niece's opinion. and I am saying that people need to KNOW what they are doing. hence my explanation of the banks.  it's a dose of transparency:  they won't tell you that. you need all the data to make an informed choice.

ZZZZ: That's a good point, D. In fact, upon going to the bank I think I'll bring up exactly what you stated. I'll say, "I know you're gonna fuck me, anyway. Nonetheless, honor these docs or I will call the Secret Service. Furthermore, I don't really care as long as the digits remain in my account as they're all make-believe anyway. Honor or be shut down. Either way, the production will finally come to a conclusion and we can get to the after party.

D:  : ZZZZ, my comment was in response to your comment that "they're not getting any thing else"

<<< the people in these chat rooms and other like-minded folk are not going to use this money to pay off fraudulent debts so the those licking their chops can suck it, cuz there not getting anything else.>>>>

I was responding to that because if you deposit into their bank - even if you don't pay off any fraudulent debts- they- the banks- are STILL getting your money.  And suck it they will- they will suck it right up.  That is my point.  I'm not making judgements I'm just illuminating the fact that banks make their big money on trading, not mortgages and loans

ZZZZ: I don't really care as long as the digits remain in my account as they're all make-believe anyway.

D:  you can demand that the money stay in your account all you want, they will still use it to mirror ETFs.
ZZZZ:  I do like bringing up your points with the banker, though. I think it's quite relevant.

D: ZZZZ, im not saying dont' do it. I'm saying if you do it, do it KNOWING what you are doing.  that's all :D

ZZZZ:  K, Love. Thank you. (heart)

<<< I don't really care as long as the digits remain in my account as they're all make-believe anyway. >>>>you can demand that the money stay in your account all you want, they will still use it to mirror ETFs.>>>>

WWWW:  I'm thinking that one could use the banks to get their value into a more readily transferable state...but then USE IT to do some good and don't leave it sitting in there for the banks to pillage with overnight.

Yes they'll make some profits- but don't leave 10 million sitting in there for months on end. Transfer it into assets which have a use- buildings/ businesses/ whatever.
 Hell -stick some cash under your mattress if it makes you feel better. If you find a use for more value that will help out - hit the bank again but USE & SHARE the value.  JMHO.


I'm thinking that one could use the banks to get their value into a more readily transferable state...but then USE IT to do some good and don't leave it sitting in there for the banks to pillage with overnight.

Yes they'll make some profits- but don't leave 10 million sitting in there for months on end. Transfer it into assets which have a use- buildings/ businesses/ whatever.
 Hell -stick some cash under your mattress if it makes you feel better. If you find a use for more value that will help out - hit the bank again but USE & SHARE the value.  JMHO.




D:  the thing is this:  again it's about KNOWING.  Banks don't let you remove your money from your accounts any more.   This is some of the news that's getting into the MSM finally.  If you withdraw more than $5000 US (in American banks) you have to TELL THEM what you are doing with it and they HAVE to report to DHS what you are doing with your money.  You also can't transfer more than $5000 at a time (it use to be $10K until this summer) without it being held by "security" and they track it to insure it's "legitimate" and that you're not involved in money laundering or drug smuggling or terrorism. 

 I shit you not.

Next, they set up maximums that you can removed from your account on a weekly basis- unless you can prove that you're buying a home or a car etc....  Next they limit your debit cards daily/weekly amounts that you are allowed to take from your account.  NEXT they do not allow you to send money internationally above $9,999 US- or they hold it and you have to prove you're not a terrorist yadda yadda yadda.   Next they tell you that you need to invest that money or put it into trust funds or put it into bonds or into financial services offered by the banks "professionals".

Now.... some of that you can get out of if you know how to negotiate and play hard ball.  But the plain and honest truth is that 90% of people see the zero's on their deposit slip and completely loose their minds and will agree to ANYTHING to get that money into their accounts, up to and including, letting the bank control the money.... for their own good, of course.  This is a fact.  That's how banks make a killing off of new millionaires and lottery winners.

Once you put your money into a bank, it's actually not very easy to get complete access to it.  That's also a fact.


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Hi D, I have posted a question in several chatrooms but cant get an answer. The question is:  What makes the deposit a FOREIGN deposit? It's still in U.S dollars per the D.O.C and being deposited in a U.S bank. Should the DOC document use another foreign currency as the deposit amount?  Having trouble with this part of the process.  Thank you

[6:25:41 PM] HEATHER: every inbodyment is foreign to the former systems...YOU BE THE VALUE....THAT VALUE IS FOREIGN IN A SYSTEM THAT DID NOT CREATE IT...THEREFORE, IT IS A FOREIGN DEPOSIT WITHIN ANY SYSTEM IT DID NOT ORIGINATE FROM.....and  by perpetuity, any and all former systems were required to preserve that perpetuity....any and all fomer system's codes/statutes that you look through....all of them have sections that preserve the perpetuity...


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AAAA: Thats interesting about the 5k  D, you should repost that elsewhere.That now begs the question do we require the bank with such documentation to say purchase a new truck, can  not the dealership complete this certificate of value as the actual payment exact. And can they now deposit such a thing as transaction final
D:  Why not?  If someone who owns a dealership and understands the filings wants to accept your value.  How about buying a car from a person?  Joe is selling his car and tells Joanne about it and Joanne says "I'll give you X amount of my value for your car", then Joe receives REAL Value for his car and Joanne gets a car without ever having to step foot into a bank.   But you know what's REALLY awesome about that scenario?  If Mr IRS (or name your equivalent) comes after Joe for the taxes on the sale of his car.... how is he going to calculate the exchange of value?  Because the moment he (the IRS's official employee) puts an actual Dollar Value on that VALUE.... then it would seem to me that he's just created an exchange rate, hasn't he? And as a "government" employee with an official standing, it would seem to me that THAT would put the IRS and US Corporations... I mean "Governments" in a bit of a pickle, eh?


[11/3/2013 8:36:20 PM] XXX: Hey some reading from Karen Hudes page..........."From: Karen Hudes <h.k3511@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Subject: Rescission of the Zenith World Trust

This is to inform you of the rescission of the attached Zenith World Trust following my conversation today with Kimberly A. Tater and Dee Thomas Murphy. The document is fatally flawed. Please be informed that: (1) "people are not the one true god" (2) the grant was not approved by the authorized signatory over the collateral accounts, source of the funding and (3) the member countries of the World Bank do not agree that the funding for their projects are to flow via a trust established in the United States and subject thereto.

Sincerely,
Karen Hudes
Acting General Counsel
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development #karenhudes
[11/3/2013 8:37:12 PM] XXX:  This was on facebook......i mention oppt in the post below.......
XXX:  Keep up the good work  Every Trust is foreclosed under ucc law. Delcaration of fact ucc # ucc 2012127914- OPPT have foreclosed every trust and every Bank

Karen Hudes:  OPPT does not have authority to file on behalf of the world, and it is just there to confound and confuse.

XXX:  Thank you Karen... You must get lots of email. . Have your read the Paradigm report yet?

XXX: who's authority would they need ? as the oppt fillings listed in the declaration of facts filling which was # ucc 2012127914 where Registered and then PUBLICLY Displayed and as they went un-rebutted. They where then ratified into international law. In essence the Corporations Foreclosed on themselves as they failed to Re-butt.


[10:51:31 AM] HEATHER: looookey looooookey who still plays for "Hoookey":

https://www.google.com/#q=International+Bank+for+Reconstruction+and+Development


D's note:  On Nov 3 2013 Karen Hudes replied to an email with this signature:

Sincerely,
Karen Hudes
Acting General Counsel
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development #karenhudes

.... that means the World Bank folks.  

Sooooooooo...... a supposed "whistleblower" comes raging onto the scene (kinda like Snowdon- the cabal's "Whistleblower and fear porn spreader),  releasing all of this "huge" data that had the world ohhhing and ahhhhhing- except that nothing she has said is new or unknown or all that earth-shattering (just like Snowdon). You Tube videos all over the net, interviews with people like Fulford etc...and she's STILL working for the World Bank. 

What does that tell you?


... Just sayin'


[10:51:42 AM] HEATHER: I LOVE THE ABSOLUTE PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:52:54 AM] HEATHER: ....I thought they would have learnt at least a little bit from the last "BANKER'S PLAN" of OCCUPY WALL STREET...that they lost control of. (facepalm)(chuckle)(heart)


[4:11:31 PM] Bill: So much for the whistle blower......sheeesh

[4:12:04 PM] HEATHER: (chuckle)

[4:13:30 PM] Bill: They really have a low regard for the intelligence of the public...

Edited 10 minutes later to add this gem:  Source

Quote Senior Counsel for the World Bank legal department reports corruption in the World Bank, and within other member countries.

https://twitter.com/KarenHudes

Karen Hudes studied law at Yale Law School and economics at the University of Amsterdam. She worked in the US Export Import Bank of the US from 1980-1985 and in the Legal Department of the World Bank from 1986-2007. She established the Non Governmental Organization Committee of the International Law Section of the American Bar Association and the Committee on Multilateralism and the Accountability of International Organizations of the American Branch of the International Law Association.

http://kahudes.net/

..."This comment on Bloomberg at the bottom of the email shows that the Federal Reserve Board's day at the trough is finally ending. On July 22, 2013 Senior Judge Susan R. Winfield of the DC Superior Court, Criminal Division, dismissed criminal trespass charges that were brought against me when I reported back to work at the World Bank after having been reinstated by the 188 Ministers of Finance on the World Bank's Board of Governors. The US District Attorney for the District of Columbia, Ronald C. Machen, Jr., had to drop the case when I argued that my prosecution on false trespass charges was causing the World Bank's members to lose confidence in US' commitment to the World Bank. "[C]ountries will be reluctant to cooperate unless they are convinced that other countries are also committed to doing so."

"I argued that the World Bank was needed to prevent an economic armageddon as people lost confidence in the paper currency issued by the Fed. Before my hearing, I made sure that the District of Columbia, Virginia, and Maryland knew that countries had been threatening to further decentralize jobs in the World Bank's headquarters in Washington because of the corrupt business climate, and of the decision of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa to set up their own development bank." -- KAREN HUDES, Whistleblower from the World Bank