TOP
radio show June 18 summary and transcript
The
One People (TOP) show
Monday,
June 17, 2013 (USA)
Tuesday,
June 18, 2013 (AEST)
Ginger’s
summary:
Will
begin with how Lisa ended this show with her stating . . . “we are
on the threshold of explosive creating” . . . because for me, it
not only best sums up the show, but what I and many of us are feeling
and knowing . . . during these end of days battle for human
consciousness.
This
was a very important show because, in general it began to address how
both Project XIII and the I-UV ixchange will be a bridge in a
practical way, as well as Heather at beginning of show, outlining it
in both a practical, and embodiments value . . .
.
. . “we have our value, but just do not know how to access it yet
. . . every embodiment now is a bank . . . so can now transparently
exchange with other embodiments “banks” . . . and is just one
tool . . . any former systems that de-bunks this, needs to rebut it .
. . (please see full transcript further on)
Heather,
Caleb and team need to adjust apps In next few days . . . and it will
be in each our own hands . . . with July 1st
apple app available . . . and goes onto share lots more . . . with
some excellent questions from Mark.
At
this point, no other notes were taken, because of the significance of
hearing things directly from Heather, one needs to hear for
themselves . . . as well as hearing how everyone on this OP bridge
team are together working things out . . . towards how each of us
will be being the extension of this bridge crew, with many quantum
leap tools.
This
show helped me understand lots more . . . and also lost me around
things like say . . . going into my bank to negotiate new terms and
conditions as a creditor. But I also understand that these kind of
topics are still being hammered out by Heather, Caleb and bridge crew
. . . as in listening to this show . . . you are hearing how they are
proceeding with the weavings of it all.
The
full transcript of this show is now available below:
Can’t
wait to “aloha” my Bank of Hawai’i with my new terms and
conditions – LOL – it’s why I am here!!!
-
GingerSnap! - http://www.meetup.com/Kona-Occupy-Disclosure-OnePeople/
Transcript:
First
few minutes of Lisa Harrison introducing the co-hosts:
Chris:
I’m glad you guys are back, I’ve been winging it for a couple of
weeks with help from various wing people. Interesting experience,
but glad you’re back all the same so we can actually wind the thing
back up and get the thing going again.
Lisa:
Yeah, we are, we’re about to hit Phase II, I think in a big way.
Chris:
Phase II would be great. Phase II is good.
Brian:
Thanks Chris for holding down the fort while we were gone, you did
an excellent job.
Bob
and Lisa: Yes he did.
Chris:
No problem, look and I have to thank all the folks. I did hit on a
lot of folks at the last minute and I really thank them for their
support because I was never really sure whether you guys were going
to get on the show and you did a bit, but…
Lisa:
We weren’t either…
Chris:
That’s right! I had Scott jump on and Brad and Bethany and a
bunch of other people as well, so kudos to those folks for support
and we’ll be pulling them in again for sure.
Lisa:
And for an encore, because she’s not actually gonna be on the show
anymore, but we do have Heather with us for the first fifteen to
twenty minutes today. Are you there darl? … Heather?
Heather:
I’m here!
Lisa:
So we noticed you’ve been busy.
Heather:
I’m here and hi everyone. How are you?
Lisa:
We’re good.
Brian:
Wait, is Mark on the call?
Mark:
Yeah hi…. Just keeping it real!
(All
laughter).
Lisa:
Heather, I know we only have you for a few minutes, so before we
actually get to Mark do you want to go ahead and let everyone know
what you’ve been working on the last few days since we left last
week? I know there’s been a lot of work going on both
energetically and in practical terms so…
Heather:
What I can do is discuss with you a work session Caleb and I had
tonight. In about 15 minutes, we covered all the banking aspects -
all the tools; because people have access, they have their value.
They just don't know how to access it, or use it, or transfer it.
So
we went through ... Project XIII is totally ... that's Caleb's
DO'ing. So I stayed really out of it. Really sat down for the first
time, went through the apps. I knew, I trusted and was not
disappointed at the fact that he knew what he was doing. It's
beautiful work. So we went through and just said okay, there's many
tools that can be used for people to access their value. Really, the
principles and the functions of how people access their value,
transfer their value, deliver their value - it's all the same except
for it's directly between embodiment to embodiment. Anyone who wants
to play or engage with you has to transparently come forward.
In
the old system, it wasn't like that. They can still participate. They
just have to be very transparent. You get to determine your choice.
Do you want to play with them or not? Regarding, for instance, the
former purported BIS and all of their member banks, central banks,
things like that. They still have a place that they can sit there.
You guys just determine whether you want to play with them or not.
They need to determine how they are willing to play with you, if at
all. If they make themselves irrelevant, they make themselves
irrelevant. Everything was cancelled, so really it's your choice to
re-engage them, make them alive again; but not their system, just
their entity.
With
these, every person, every embodiment throughout the universe is a
bank. You hold your value. You're responsible for your value. You own
your value. When you decide to transfer or receive or deliver value,
it's between you and at least one other embodiment or more. But
everything's transparent. I love the server system. I haven't really
sat down with Caleb about Project XIII, other than tidbits while
everyone else was working. I love how everyone's responsible for
their own device. They have their own data. His server really is just
a transfer mechanism. Because that's where the old systems really
bogged down the actual value, was through distribution and
representations. Now you get to choose what representations you're
willing to play with or use or accept. Or you can just go direct to
energetics and work it that way. Either way you're in charge. You're
the boss of your value. Nobody else can infringe on that or invade
that or usurp that.
I
really love the quote his friend had that he used on Project XIII
website, which is “Self-governance in the digital age”. Digital
is just a tool and you don't even need Project XIII. You don't need
any of this stuff to access your own value, but this is one tool
that's there for you to do it. So here's the best part, is that
because the principles are the same, only this time they're
transparent how it functions, any of the former systems would
actually be debunking anything and everything they've ever done up to
date if they dishonor or do not recognize your value and your
declaration. They would actually have to go in and rebut it. So
everything's done. All the work is done. It's just a matter of you
being able to access the value.
I
love where Project XIII sits. I love the VEXS protocols. They
resonate for me. It's just a matter of whether they resonate for any
other embodiments. It's a perfect tool for me for right now. So,
that's where we are. I'm going to be setting ... the banking part we
did in 15 minutes. It will take Caleb and the team that he's working
with basically three days to adjust the apps for the banking part.
But everyone has their own accounts; they're responsible for them.
There's a lot of value streams that people can be really creative
about; their investment streams and everything else. But it's all in
each of your hands. That's what's beautiful about it. Nobody can
tamper with it. It all sits within the eternal essence. Even if you
don't want ... you don't believe in eternal essence filing or any of
the filings. It doesn't matter. You can still run your value however
you want to. They can't touch it. Meaning they being those that want
to commandeer it, steal it, usurp it, invade it - it's all over and
done with.
So,
that's the updates I have for you. It'll take me this week to finish
up basically the work with Caleb to get him what he needs. Then it
takes him three days to add the things to the apps. July 1st will be
the iPhone app launch. Windows is already out there. We're just
waiting for Microsoft to go in and put it in their App store. His
desktop is flying; he's almost got it done. He's working through that
very, very quickly, which is great because that's the one that I have
to use, since I don't have an iPhone or a Microsoft phone. That's it.
Lisa:
All right. Do you mind if I just open it up to questions from firstly
maybe Chris? (banging noise) … Chris?
Chris:
Yep, sorry, I got interrupted halfway through.
Lisa:
Okay, well I'll pass it over to Mark.
Chris:
Pass it over to Mark for a moment.
Lisa:
Mark, do you have any questions?
Mark:
Yeah. Heather, I was wondering if it was correct to say that when you
contract with each other that you're… in the I-contract that we
did, is that then going to need to be in a registry as well? Are we
looking at doing our registry with that? Does that relate to ... well
that would be my first question.
Heather:
Basically that one-page contract that we ended up working on before
you left, basically all that does is it gets altered, so that it's
just a declaration. It's not a contract. First you go in and you
actually declare what you have. Like any bank, a bank needs funding,
right? So you're actually deciding how much of your ... we reserved
$5 billion for every person, or every embodiment involved, for their
equity. Then there was another $5 billion ... not reserved, but
actually returned ... another $5 billion for anyone who claims
damages. All it takes is a declaration. All the underwriting was
already done by OPPT, so all that's sitting in there and it's
un-rebutted. So you've already underwritten your entire bank. All you
need to do is deposit what essentially would be the equivalent of a
bond, for instance, so that you enter into Project XIII.
You
deposit that into your bank, so to speak, because you are the bank.
You're just letting people know what's in there, what you want your
bank to work with and they actually get to go in and start using it
immediately. Transfer it. Use it. Then everyone on Project XIII, or
even out there they get to see who's using what. You can use old
tools and NOW tools and you BE.
Mark:
Okay, Heather, remember how we talked about the difference with the
funds not being blockable and we would stipulate that they are not to
be used for overnight trading or trading platforms? One really good
question that came up was are we or what's in it for the bank, if we
do contract with the bank to work with some of our value and bond
some of our value to use in say US dollars or Euro or something. Do
we just pay them fees if we did that?
Heather:
Banks have nothing to do with any of this Mark. If you want to go and
play with a bank, then you make your own terms with them. You already
know how they're going to operate. What I would do is just get
everything in to ... if I were to go and play with the bank, I would
say “Here's what I'm wanting to do. I already know what you guys
do, so here's what I'm willing to do”. But as far as leveraging and
all that, I mean you have to sit down and make your marks.
As
far as Project XIII, if I go in and open up my accounts and do a bank
out of there ... actually, I'm the bank, so really it's just a
notice. Project XIII, my account, ends up being just a notification
system, as well as my own registry system for all that I do out of my
bank. Okay?
So
then I can go out and get a certification from ... that's one thing
I'm going to show powers-that-were or the perceived roles of
powers-that-were how to go in and actually interact, repurpose
themselves if they choose to, or any of the embodiments to go in and
say ,”hey, here's one example of how to make a value stream”. Not
so much a revenue stream, solely, but a value stream, which also
includes a revenue stream.
Then
they say, "Okay, Heather's going to go out”. I create a
representation, which most people call corporations back before.
Well, that entity's actually just a representation of me so that
people can identify that with a particular DO'ing I'm going to DO. So
let's say I go out and say, “I'm going to go in Mark, Chris,
whoever, if you want me to search, give a certification that you
actually have this particular funding in your bank, then I can do
that”. Now whether someone finds that certification valuable or
not, that just depends on everyone's agreement, meaning mine with
whoever's asking for the search. Then as far as anyone else, I guess
it would be a matter of credibility, performance history, that kind
of a thing.
That's
just one example. There's a lot of good people out there that will go
in and do the work as far as auditing, certifying. They need to
repurpose too, because they used to work for corporations and
corporations are shut down. Now they need a place where they can
actually work and do something they feel good about and yet uses
their NOW skill sets, right? So really it's about using what's
around.
Mark:
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. I'm wondering if .. everything
that I'm looking at right now is what can we do that anyone can do,
that will be available for anyone to do?
Heather:
That’s the whole… what I look at when I go to do something is
“What one DO’ing can I do that touches as much as possible in the
highest good of all?” And then I go in and look at the NOW tools…
what is an immediate value stream because everything is energetic.
That’s one thing that I’m going to be putting out there data
wise, is just that part of the value system which hasn’t ever been
disclosed, at least not to en-masse embodiments. And with that, in
that value system and the information that wasn’t told lies the
debt part of the value system, it also lies the financial part of the
value system. You were only given part of the story, or part of the
information. So all of that can come clear, and anyone can do this.
Michael
Tellinger kept asking me “How do South Africa, or how do I go in
and underwrite, or write a promissory note or anything else”. And
the mechanics of banking are not bad guys… the mechanics of banking
is beautiful, except for they only tell you part of it. They don’t
tell you the whole thing.
If
you go in and you do exactly how it’s been done, if they go in and
dishonor that, all of a sudden they dishonor all their other paper.
So they’ve got to make a choice. But the thing is you don’t have
to rely on them making the choice. You can go in and DO, you declare
and then it takes someone to rebut it in order for it to be
invalidated. It’s a very simple process.
Chris:
Okay Heather a quick question. One thing I’ve been thinking about
in terms of the asset that’s backing us. Would it be true to say
that in fact, if you wanted to point at something and say “There’s
the value!” would it actually be our DNA?
Heather:
Asset backing you? That’s really an interesting question in light
of this information.
Chris:
Because we have value, we talked about values being energy, but you
know would that be a true statement in your view.
Heather:
It doesn’t resonate for me. The body is a vehicle. You yourself,
your BE’ing is creative. So when you create and you DO, for every
unit that you spend in energy for the highest good of all, you draw
units of energy behind you. And it can manifest in any form you want
it to, you just have to set your intent on what you want it to
manifest as. And every unit that you spend just for the highest good
of your body, and not any of the other embodiments, you pull one to
one value behind you into frontal view so you can use it. And then
if you go in and you spend one unit of energy to damage any other
embodiment that’s the debt system. That’s what we know as the
debt system and basically you lose that one unit, plus you just have
created a debt for yourself to pay off any damage that any other body
incurs. It’s a very simple value system they just cut it up and
took the parts that …
Chris:
So the DNA relates to the vehicle for the energy which is the body?
That’s fine, just wanted to see what you were thinking on that
subject.
Heather:
DNA is like a credit card. It doesn’t represent the value, it’s
just a tool to use the value. Your body is the tool. Your soul, or
your eternal essence; whatever you want to call it, that is the
value. So DNA is a part of your density.
Chris:
Well, it makes sense to me.
Bob:
As an example Heather, if I was going to develop a new
communications system that I want for the whole planet to have access
to free communication and then whatever value that I put forward is
also backed by seven other billion embodiments for each unit. Is that
basically what you’re saying?
Heather:
Well, let me think about that because what it is I only focus and
have control over my own embodiment. For me to tie seven billion
embodiments and actually it’s universal so you’re talking many,
many, many times over that. For me to tie anyone else into what I’m
DO’ing, that just doesn’t resonate with me. To tie them in to be
an insurance on anything that I DO does not resonate with me, because
I’d want to know if someone’s DO’ing that to me and have a say
in it, whether I want to DO it or not.
What
I can DO is I can go in and say “I’m going to DO in the highest
good of seven billion, or five hundred quadrillion, it doesn’t
matter, even if it’s just one or more. I’m going to DO in the
highest good for all and whatever draws behind me great. I don’t
DO it for whatever draws behind me, what I can make, whatever value
stream, I DO it because that’s what makes me feel good. It makes
me expand when I see others Impowered. So I can only speak for
myself Bob, but it does not resonate to me that I would tie any other
embodiment into what I choose to DO consciously when they don’t
have a knowing or conscious choice.
Bob:
I just wanted to clarify what you meant by you’re pulling the
energy or all the embodiments if you’re DO’ing it for the
greatest good of all.
Heather:
No, I didn’t say that, I said that if I do for the greatest good
of all, for every energy unit that I put out, I draw behind it
infinite, I draw value absent limit behind it for every unit.
Bob:
Okay, got it.
Heather:
Not that every embodiment gives me a unit behind it. No, I’m just
drawing from Source, which is I am a creator Source just like you
guys are each a creator Source. Everyone’s equal. Everyone has
this ability to do this and so many have come on the show who
actually have spoken some data. It’s what they haven’t told that
will see if they make a choice to tell what they haven’t told. But
that’s really the energetics and how it works. That is the value
system and all they’ve shown is a part of the value system and not
the whole.
Chris:
Yeah the key to it is the agreements. If we actually have
agreements with one another about how we’re going to conduct
ourselves and everybody… you know there’s full disclosure of all
details, it will work. At the moment we have a tacit social
agreement, we’ve had a whole lot of agreements that we haven’t
been party to, foisted upon us by the system; deceptive acts and
practices.
Heather:
Yeah but those all melt away when you understand the energetics of
it. They all melt away when you know you’re not a party to it.
Chris:
That’s what I’m saying. If you step away from that and
recognize it for what it is and form a new agreement then the new
agreement stands does it not?
Heather:
Only if they actually want to play with it. I’m not going to play
with someone who doesn’t want to play with me. I’m not going to
force them. So like Mark and I went in to test and work with,
basically contracts are just a representation of energetic contracts.
All of this is about energy. So really a piece of paper is just a
representation of that energetic contract. Now depending on how
savvy someone is as far as how much knowledge they pull from within
out about the energetics determines on how much you need to put in
writing to disclose that representation. Mark and I have one piece
of paper and that’s it for now but if we choose, or if we feel at
any moment of any DO’ing within that energetic contract that we
need to put things in writing so there’s some more clarity then we
do that.
Otherwise,
because of the fact that we got to meet and actually have the
energetic magnetic fields meet up, a lot of data gets transferred
that way; same with Brian and I, same with Bob and I, Lisa and I…
anyone…Brian and Bob or Lisa and Mark. It’s about energetics.
So everything that you see around you is representation. Pretty soon
you won’t need any representation of value, you won’t need any
representation of the energetic contracts. It’s all contained
within your magnetic field and you own those magnetic fields, you’re
sole operator of those magnetic fields unless you consent to someone
messing with them, or engaging in them.
Chris:
Well I view the contracts as being an educational tool to make you
aware of the actual energetic processes going on in the background,
because as you say if I’m forming an agreement with a friend that I
know very well, we don’t even really need to do anything than say
“Yes I agree” and shake hands and walk off. That’s a purely
energetic contract. It’s only on paper if you aren’t at that
level with the other person in my mind and it’s useful at this
point in time as you say. So that’s just another part of that
whole process of educating ourselves. But I do have one question
Heather, the aspect of coming to agreements with the banks in terms
of if you wanted to take some of your value in the form of a bond and
put it with a bank and you know, we’re the creditor in this
instance, and that’s the flip that we all have to get our heads
around. The form of that bond, is that something that you guys are
going to issue tools on so people have got some guidance as to where
to start with that if they want to go there?
Heather:
Well I mean as far as embodiments BE’ing the creditor; they’ve
always been the creditor. That was a lack of transparency in what
they didn’t tell.
Chris:
That’s correct. As you say, these guys have to make a decision
about whether any of their paper means anything. If they refuse a
bond from an embodiment, on the basis that it’s not valid for some
reason they’re invalidating everything they’ve ever done. So
that’s something that we have to educate them on that we now know
what we’re doing. It’s just the form of them, it’s the words.
Cause they’ll expect something on paper. That’s their game the
paper.
Heather:
Actually, that’s the thing. They don’t expect anything on
paper. They just put you through the rigmarole of putting it on
paper so that they have an easier mechanism to control who knows how
what works. Those in the highest levels of banking know that it is
energetic
So
it’s … let’s say this Chris. I want to make sure that
questions are answered, I was actually going to sit down and
everyone’s been asking for a manual from those in the former
systems that want to change things and actually have. Everything has
been changed, they’re just rolling it out very, very slowly. And
it’s because they need to know basically where to go. Like how to
do this so it won’t be taken down again and that’s cool, that’s
fine.
So
what I’m going to DO, all I know how to DO is what the template is
that’s been working out the back is put myself in the position of
the example of how to DO, if I’m willing to put myself in that
position then I’m not going to sit there and tear it down if
someone else goes in that position. Does that make sense? I’m not
setting them up to fail. I’m not setting them up to… they know
that if I’m putting myself in that position that that is a pure,
solid position and they can ferret it out, dissect it, review it,
discuss it, same as what we provided the period of the UCC filings
for them to go in and rebut them, which never happened.
So,
I hope that answers at least some questions because I’m really
sorry I don’t have much time tonight, but I want to go over all of
this information and I know that really helps out. If people want to
send any questions, let me get out the first data set and we can
build off there. And that way people can ask really pointed
questions.
But
yes, one question Brian had that he wrote was Phase I is giving
people access to their value? Yes, actually Phase I was giving
people access to the knowledge of what the value is. Phase II is
giving people access to their value and near simultaneously, actually
simultaneously maybe even before, Phase III is actually to develop
the system to allow people to use it for goods and services.
So
if you had a grocer who sits there and says “I don’t really like
the former systems and how it operates and I know that I’m the
value, I know that I’m the one producing this, I have consumers who
actually feel the same way, but I need the goods and services to put
into my store in order for them to buy that actually are the same
heart, the same place of consciousness, how do I find them?”
And
that’s what I loved about Project XIII is that it allows right now,
the main function that it’s working as is similar to Facebook and
then on that layers up so that you end up having functions like
Skype. You have functions that go all the way into the banking. So
Caleb and his team is just going to layer and layer and layer
whatever the people, whatever the embodiments choose to have added to
it, that’s what gets added to it.
So
if they’re going to set up a way for people to decide this is what
I want to invest in is my tools to be able to use my value and
connect with those that feel the same way I do, or even feel
differently to help me look at different ways of doing things. This
is just a quantum jumping pad. Project XIII is the quantum jumping
pad and as Caleb says “Not attached to it” and he would love for
some fourteen year old to show up and say “Caleb that’s great and
I can do better!” and they do something even better and then that’s
a tool that everyone grows from.
So
Facebook will be the best example, Mark Zuckerberg did a great job to
put out this product with a particular function and the only thing
that people don’t really like about it, according to what came out
last week is the fact that your information is being sold for
millions and millions of dollars to other people and it’s not your
data once you enter it in from your device into their server. And
yet they’re making millions and millions of dollars, which is why
they give you the device for free so they can actually harvest that
info. This is much different. That’s why I like Project XIII. It
resonates more for me with the eternal essence and where the value
actually is and how the energetics act as well. So I hope that
answers some questions and gives an update, at least.-
Mark:
Heather I’d like to ask for more clarification on the bridging
side of it. I really get the after… the later phase when people
start taking up the I-ixchange and they start exchanging and trading
for goods and services in the I-ixchange system, it’s the bridging
part that I’m more unclear about. I have some ideas about it, but
my understanding of it is that we can create a bond and get some
value and do some value with the bank if we choose and then from
there move towards as quickly as possible move people towards the
I-ixchange. Is that correct, or what would be… is there any
clarification you can give now?
Brian:
Mark, look at the chat, it looks like you’re coming through as a
transformer to Heather so I don’t know if she picked any of that
up.
Mark:
Oh crap!
Chris:
Well Heather if you heard the question just repeat it so that
people…
Mark:
How come you guys heard?
Brian:
Well she’s hearing all of us as transformers. So she said type it
Mark if you can.
Mark:
I will.
Chris:
Just type it in, good thank you Brian. It was a good question.
Lisa:
The last five minutes have been totally transformer for me and I
haven’t heard a word. It may have happened and I just didn’t
hear it, but can someone explain to me what this actually looks like
in terms of practical funding. You know the question that
everybody’s always had was “How do I buy my bread and put gas in
my car?” So someone explain it to me.
Chris:
Mark, do you want to have a go at that? I’m happy to do it but…
Brian:
He’s typing a question…
Chris:
Oh, he’s typing a question okay.
Bob:
From what I understand Lisa, if you created a bond okay and suppose
you wanted to deposit a certain amount of value in your local bank
well you would create a bond for whatever value that you wish to
extend into that forum and they’re either going to accept it, or
have to rebut why they’re not accepting it because it would
invalidate all of their other notes that they also accept.
Lisa:
So that’s what I’m asking, is this going to require each and
every one of us to go to a bank with a bond and have funds deposited
into our I UV account?
Chris:
No that...
Bob:
No, no no…
Chris:
,,,that would have funds deposited into your current bank account.
Bob:
…your current bank account. You’re the creditor. You’re
crediting your account.
Chris:
Inside the I UV it’s really straight forward. It’s simply one
eternal essence literally trading by agreement with another. That’s
the easy bit…
Lisa:
Yeah, yeah I get that, but hang on that’s just between people who
are signed up with an I UV account and within Project XIII and you
can deal directly with them person to person. But I’m talking
about outside of that, those who are paying their rent, those who
want to book a plane and go somewhere, those who want to purchase
something from a store, if they don’t currently… so is what
you’re saying the only way to deal with that outside of Project
XIII, outside of the I UV is to have an arrangement with a bank?
Bob:
Right, well until you reach Phase III which would be where we would
offer for your local grocer or whatever company that you might want
to deal with where they will directly accept the I UV ixchange.
Lisa:
Okay. So we’re looking at I UV as being, as introducing a whole
new currency into the system. And…is that what you’re saying?
Chris:
Yeah, well you could view it that way but really you’re actually
pulling people into a different paradigm. You’re actually trading
directly with one another, in full transparency with either a paper
agreement or a verbal agreement energetic if you like. That’s a
completely different way of working and in fact it’s like when I go
down to the farmers markets on the weekend you’ve got people who
grew stuff, brought it down and I’m actually buying it from them.
It’s very, very direct. The whole process of bridging across to it
is actually a matter of education. It’s actually educating
everybody to the actual reality that you can do this. It’s simply
that people don’t know you can do this that’s the key issue. In
the same way they don’t know they can go to a bank and put a bond
in okay. It’s a very, very much an educational process ongoing.
If we’ve got a tool to go either direction we can do it.
Brian:
So to me it sounded like too, Lisa, to dovetail on what Chris just
shared is that when you go to the grocery store and you have all the
stuff that you can buy in the store, they have all their suppliers
that they buy those things from as well and the bridge, or the
missing link to the puzzle is to help the grocer understand that they
can use the same system to acquire their goods, just like to mirror
your exchange system to acquire your goods from them, so it’s like
taking it back to – so if they can use the same system to purchase
or acquire all the things from their suppliers, then they can use the
same system to sell it to you and so it’s like, it’s kind of like
the courtesy notice where it bleeds through the system to get
everybody operating on the same new system. Is that how everybody
else understood it as well when she brought up the grocery store
example?
Lisa:
Well I think what I’m seeing is the I UV can be looked at as
another currency and a global one, and it’s about having the
conversations and having the relationships where people are hopefully
choosing to adopt that currency and operate in that currency and if
it was presented to businesses, let’s say here in Australia it’s
like okay, you’ve got a customer base here that uses Australian
dollars and they’re all struggling and none of them have much, or
if you choose you can also operate with this other currency where
your customer base actually has billions of dollars, so… does that
make sense?
Chris:
Yes it does. And what it just highlights is the fact that the
educational process that’s begun with the One Peoples Public Trust
and developed to now continues to need to spread outwards to
encompass everybody. And that’s really, that’s really the
process that we’re going through right here and now. This is the
beginning of it. And you said before, does this mean everyone has to
go to the bank with a bond if they want to go play with the banks?
Well
actually it does but if we’ve got some basic templates that we can
walk up and actually have a discussion over with the person at the
right level in the bank which I presume, it’s not going to be a
bank manager, it’s going to be much higher than that and I’m more
than happy to do that, I’m more than happy to spread information to
people about how to do that and give them the confidence to do it.
The only thing I would caution against is that the bonds must be
protected so they can’t play the hypothecation games that they’ve
been playing with all of the other bonds that we’ve inadvertently
created by them not telling us that we’re actually the creditor.
Okay? We can’t let them play that game with these funds because all
they’ll get for their trouble is a fee from us, which we’ll
negotiate with them for them handling this particular financial
instrument on our behalf.
That’s
all banks should ever have been, but because we didn’t know what we
were doing, they basically ripped us off and they created the whole
derivatives, the whole stock market and derivatives market and all
the big financial programs as they call them, are all based around
the fact that we’re ignorant that we are the creditor. And this is
the educational program where we correct not only the public’s
perceptions but we correct the behavior of the banks.
So
I’m more than happy to go to a bank, I’m more than happy to sit
down with the CEO of my bank, or the CFO and present him with a bond
and give him a choice: Are you going to invalidate everything you’ve
ever done or are you going to work in honor with me and acknowledge
the value that’s in this presentation I’m giving to you. That’s
where we’re really at. As Mark said, that’s a bridging phase.
We don’t want to stay playing in that playground, that’s not
where we want to be. We want to be out in the absolute where we’re
dealing directly with other eternal essences one-to-one by agreement,
whether they are a vendor, it doesn’t matter whether they sell
trucks, we’re still dealing with a person who is presenting
something that we might need or not need. So for Phase II, bring it
on!
Brian:
Phase III bring it on, also.
Chris:
Phase III, yeah. Well look, they’ll develop in parallel because
there will be people that are ready to work in that system, and if
you want an example folks of a system that’s similar but not
exactly the same as we’re talking about but similar, go and have a
look at a website called Global Settlements Foundation. They run a
private trading network based on some software called Loom and they
do have a connection to the banking system because you can pull value
out but they do it by basing their – if you choose to work within
their system you can use gold.
Now
because gold’s money under Basel III yes you can move value out f
their system, but inside their system they’ve got people trading
coffee for petrol. Because you can nominate any currency, any –
you can nominate any physical item to be your currency by agreement
with the other party, which is exactly the contractual system
Heather’s talking about that she’s trying to educate us to.
Because in the end, that paper contract leads to an energetic
contract further down the track once we all understand what we’re
doing a bit better.
So
have a look at that, it’s a very interesting website and the guys
in it have a deep understanding of what they’re doing, they know
about trading value. And again, it’s not exactly what the I UV
will be because clearly we’re trading on our value as living souls
within that system which is where we need to be because everything
else is a representation and it’s subject to being ripped off which
is what we’ve been.
So,
massive educational program, and I’m ready for it, you know, cause
that’s where we need to go next and that’s great. We’ve got to
keep educating the people about it. So I’ll shut up now.
Brian:
Well, just to dovetail on what you just said Chris, is that this is
the kind of thing that once you can show it working on any small
level, people say this will take years to roll out. Well, no it
won’t! I mean, if you have a system that’s broken, and you have
a system that supports the elite to have all the cash and it doesn’t
support the rest of the 99 per cent of us, and you take a new model
and you show it working on some small level and you get that out on
a viral campaign just like we had with all of the One People’s
Public Trust stuff when it first came out, and what you have is a new
system that will spread like wildfire once they can see that it’s
working on a small level. Because if it works on a small level then
it can work on a small level for many across any time or space. So,
we become the pioneers and everybody that’s listening to these
calls become the change agents to get this thing online and get it
moving and get it moving out there quickly.
Lisa:
We always say it only takes one. So in any sector of commerce or
industry, it’s only going to take one company, one organization,
one corporation, whatever they want to call themselves, to come on
board and basically steal the entire customer base before everybody
else goes, “Oh, hang on. We need to play.”
Chris:
Yeah, well not only that, it’ll only take one person to have one
bank to accept a bond and you know, that opens the fire hose. Now
we’ve peppered the system with courtesy notices and that had a big
energetic effect. If we all turn up at the doors of the banks and
say, “Hey, we’re going to give you a limited part of our value so
I can solve certain problems before I move out of your system
altogether, and you can have a fee, and it’s your choice to negate
everything you’ve done or not”. It only takes one person to get
that over the line, and then we’re on our way. And if we have
thousands of people with that tool and one of them gets it over the
line, then the door is open.
Brian:
Then we can have an FRN burning party where we take the last of our
federal reserve notes and we burn them and we make a Youtube video
out of it and we make that viral, and then everybody can go
(inaudible) the next day.
(All
laughter).
Chris:
That’s right. This in fact has always been the game, it’s the
information that the banks didn’t want us to have, which is now
well and truly out there and if you look at all the work that’s
been done by people around the world promoting this aspect of banking
in all of the videos they’ve been making about how the system
evolved and how it works, and you know, what they’re actually doing
to us, you know, this is – if you like, this is the result of all
that work people have done in revealing the banking system. Of
course that includes Heather and the trustees who really laid it
bare. So, and it’s up to us now to actually pick up this ball and
run with it.
Lisa:
Mark and Brian and I had a really interesting conversation while we
were in Morocco about ‘We are the gold’ and that our spirit, our
soul, our essence, is the gold, and our body is the silver. And
these – the physical gold and silver are simply representations of
that, of our spirit, of our essence and our physical bodies.
Mark: Yeah, I think
that the gold side of it was, my understanding was that the soul is
the gold and the silver is the body and esoterically that’s the
banking, the spirit itself, like eternal essence. And so eternal
essence has infinite value, and it comes in and incarnates in a soul
and in the body, and the soul and the body come with their own value
that backs the currencies and that it never was the actual metals
gold and silver that were, those were not, they were just
representations of the soul and the spirit.
Now
we have this Basel III which is like, seems, which I thought was a
really good thing but now it sounds like it’s a… the selling
point was that you could leave all of the gold and silver and all of
the other resources in the ground but now we’re… what I’m
seeing is that that’s kind of trying to trick us into moving the
value from the soul and the body to the metals, to the actual
resources, so that they can then be controlled, rather than having
the actual value be in the people themselves.
Because
if the people… before the value was in the people but they didn’t
know it, and they were tricked into thinking that their value, that
they were debtors rather than creditors. So as it was, we had people
not claiming their value and essentially being declared lost at sea
at the age of 7 is my understanding.
If
you then look at those people as we wake up and say “We’re no
longer lost at sea, I am alive and I am eternal essence embodied and
alive”, and then you decide where you give your value.
Currently
what’s been happening is the value has been stolen in many ways and
used in trading platforms, locked up and used in trading platforms
that create huge wealth, and it’s not used for the greater good of
everyone, it’s been used to control people.
If
we take our own value and take it to use for our own…for what we
choose to do, and what we choose to back, and then we have 100 per
cent liability in what we do, we then have a very different world
moving forward because the value, we’re no longer giving our value
to the governments, the alleged governments, the corporations that
are posing as governments…like the United States, Incorporated, or
Spain, Incorporated. It’s all these governments that were acting
as governments but they’re really corporations.
If
we start contracting above the UCC which is now archived and above,
you know we’re no longer working in corporations, we’re working
as individual embodiments of eternal essence. Using this contract
that… I posted an example of that contract, Lisa, I think, did you
post an example of that contract that Heather and I did?
Lisa:
No, I haven’t seen it.
Mark:
All right, I posted an example of the contract on my blog so that
it’s available and anybody can download it, you can add your own.
Lisa:
What’s your blog address?
Mark:
It’s just hoza.me. If you go there, there’s on the…I just
posted it a little while ago. I didn’t put any explanation for it
unfortunately I didn’t have time to, but there’s the document
there you can download it, you can use that actually, you can use
that document.
So
that document is what Heather created to use to establish
jurisdiction and also to establish the value. So we can use that
document as a way of contracting between individuals that is no
longer under any other jurisdiction of governments, and you can also…
Lisa:
It’s only under eternal essence.
Mark:
Yeah, you can also read… not under the IRS, the ATO (the
Australian Taxation Office) or any other taxation body that these
alleged companies that act to siphon energy off others. This is
establishing a contractual relationship between two or more
embodiments of eternal essence working together to DO something.
It
doesn’t matter what you’re DO’ing; use this contract. This
isn’t a contract, sorry, Heather, I was thinking of it as a
contract, Heather’s saying it’s a declaration. It’s like an
I-declaration, saying “I as Mark Hoza contract with Heather Ann
Tucci-Jarraf as eternal essence embodied, we both contract”. And it
lays out all of the… it establishes jurisdiction, it establishes
the value, it’s prepaid, preauthorized and preapproved by our own
value. So we then bring our own value to it. We then contract or we
then are working with each other and we can do whatever we want
under that jurisdiction that we’ve established.
It’s
no longer under the, we’re not needing to register a corporation to
do business, we’re not needing to register a trust. It’s like,
very exciting. If you understand the power of this, it’s
substantial, you really need to look at that and I would suggest
reading it and live with this idea.
We
now can contract with one another in a way that we establish
jurisdiction of…between us and eternal essence. We are eternal
essence in bodies, embodied. We say “This is where we’re working
at, we’re working as eternal essence embodied with eternal essence
embodied”. We’re essentially contracting, we’re declaring that
we’re working together and whoever wants to be on the contract, you
know on this declaration is on the declaration from themselves.
Let’s
say, you wanted to work together on anything like, if you want to
work together to make a certain type of school system and support it
with your own value, you could then, say you have 20 people who want
to do that, you get together, you can… anyone can do this. You set
up a declaration of your…you’re declaring that you want to work
together. You don’t even have to say what you’re going to work
on.
The
next thing, if you want to, is you can write amendments and post
amendments. Now, so if you understand this, this is the… you’re
no longer posting in a UCC registry, though Heather’s talking about
making a registry like probably, like probably within Project XIII is
one obvious choice, or actually that’s not really an obvious
choice, it needs to be somewhere public, it needs to be legal…
sorry, it’s lawful notice in a public forum.
So
if you just fill out this declaration, this I-declaration with
whoever you want to work with, and you post it on a website, anywhere
online; that is lawful notice. That then is notifying everyone else
that you’re working with this other eternal essence embodied and
you’re working together, it doesn’t even have to say what you’re
working on, but now you establish jurisdiction and you also establish
what you need to… you also post, you declare your value for that
you can then work with the value itself which is what Heather’s
working on, the details of the documentation for that. I mean, she’s
working on that now.
She
showed me some documentation for bonds, for a bond that is straight,
like this homeless guy, like would write, I mean he just chose to be
off the grid but any time that he chose to write a bond, it would
have to be honored and he would just put the bond up and with the
proper UCC filing information on it… which is different now…we’re
going to be working with different information on the bonds that we
write because it’s going to be, we’re going to be making bonds in
the I UV Exchange.
So
the I UV Exchange is very exciting because it also gives us power, it
gives us the ability to work in all currencies from it. I want to
understand the mechanics of that more now, I’m not pretending like
I know it more.
I
thought I… I do understand that it’s possible to bond with a bank
and I’m wondering from Heather is that going to be what we’re
going to all do? Will we all… if we need to have some say
Australian dollars, do we bond with an Australian bank so that we can
have some Australian dollars to work with in the interim whilst we
convert people to the I UV Exchange? I don’t know. I’d like to
know that, but I think that she’s going to give more information on
that, hopefully tomorrow but I don’t know, I’m not going to
commit to that because I don’t know. She was saying that she’s
working on the mechanics of that. I know she’s working on the
mechanics of that because that’s what we were DO’ing together. I
just don’t fully understand it, I’m working to understand things
as quickly as possible and I’m working then to educate others who
are like blogging and stuff because there’s like, there’s this
Rafael in Spain who’s got a large following, Lisa’s friend, and
so people in different… he was really getting it, like what we were
talking about.
Lisa::
The ‘David Icke’ in Spain?
Mark:
Yeah, he was fantastic, a really smart guy and his English is good
enough to really understand what I was talking about. I was trying
to pass on as much as I could to him, he’ll then pass it on to the
Spanish speaking world. Anybody else who can pass it on to other
languages is going to be hugely valuable. But really right now, you
know, Heather’s gone out under the radar, it’s not because she’s
not, not because she’s dumping everybody, it’s not because of
anything other than she’s working.
Heather’s
not… it was never for her to do all of, like to talk to everybody
but it’s great that she does because when she speaks, it resonates
with people’s hearts. I know it did mine. I’m glad that I got
to work with… I’m very glad that I’m working with her directly
now because I really like working with Heather. I’m glad that
she’s competent. I’m glad that she has contacts in the
international bank, trade and finance world. She does have abilities
to do stuff for all of us.
She
is also saying don’t wait but DO now, like BE and DO now. So
if…don’t wait to figure out what you want to do, like, if you
have something that you want to do, the question is to start asking
ourselves now, “If I had the access to all of the value that I
needed, what would I do?” What would I do with my life? What
would I want to do while I’m here? What’s important to me to
achieve? You know, so if I start looking at that and I say, “Okay,
well, if you want to start playing, use this document, use this
declaration”. Maybe work with somebody who you’re already
working with. I think you’ll find, and this is what Heather’s
been saying is just imagine, DO, and BE. And yes, we need tools,
we’re working on that, but don’t wait for that! Imagine what you
want your life to be, what you want to do, so anything that you want
to do imagine it.
Brian:
Here’s another good way of putting that too, Mark just because
that’s a really good point that you’re making right there.
Because people get into the habit of saying “I want to do this but
I don’t have the money to do it”. And then all of a sudden,
let’s say Mark you want to open up an orphanage in Indonesia and I
say “Okay, Mark, here you go, here’s $100,000 to go open up your
orphanage in Indonesia and you haven’t done any of the groundwork
yet, and all now that you have is you have $100,000 and your idea to
open up an orphanage in Indonesia.
So
what people can start doing right now is putting the pieces together,
putting… grabbing all the building blocks and starting to create
some kind of a plan that obviously needs to stay fluid to be open to
change because any number of variables can come in and alter the plan
at any time. But it doesn’t take any money to start building the
network, and making the contacts, to start doing what you want to do
when you do have the money. I think what people will find is in that
process of DO’ing, and in that process of BE’ing and in that
process of making those connections, is that a lot of times what will
happen is things will unfold to allow you to go a lot farther than
you would have ever thought possible without having any money.
Maybe
somebody comes in that has some bridge money, or resources that they
have access to and they love your plan so they’re going to help
support you in that endeavor because they find that their passionate
about it as well. So it doesn’t take money to be able to start
putting the pieces together, you can start DO’ing that. You don’t
necessarily have to have a big bank account to do it and I think
that’s the point you’re trying to make is that people can start
taking action now.
Mark:
Totally, because this is what Heather’s saying and it’s kind of
how we all ended up in Morocco. Just so everybody knows, we didn’t
go to Morocco on everybody’s value, or a portion of everybody’s
value. There isn’t a stash of silver that was… or gold that was
gathered that was taken and is being used for everybody to go to
Morocco.
There
was an intention made. Heather made an intention. She decided she
wanted to work in that way to do the next stage. She said that she
didn’t need to do that but she decided she wanted to do that and
she felt that energetically she was following her own energetic trail
of what resonated with her and what pulled into focus. So she
decided she wanted to pull some people together. I mean, I came in
late on that, but when I started saying ,when I started seeing that
there was some challenges like “How are we going to get some people
there?” I had some value that I could pull together and I wanted to
say “Look, can we use this? Is there something… can we work with
this Heather so we can bring more people there?”
And
it just brought more, a different energy to it and one thing went to
the next, but it wasn’t, it was a DO’ing and it’s an example of
what you can do but like, and I really cringe when… this is a
process. I really wish that it was available for everybody right now
to… right now I would like to be able to have even access to like,
I’d like to have twenty grand in my account that I can use, or
fifty grand or one hundred grand, you know, it wouldn’t have to be
a huge amount of money just to like, keep things rolling whilst I’m
working on stuff and while we’re getting everything out.
That
actually can happen in different ways. Let’s say you’ve got
something you want to do, somebody wants to make, one of the people
in one of the groups is talking about how she wants to make a pet
rehabilitation facility. Well, a lot of people would believe in
that, and there are ways to fund that, like – you can do a crowd
source funding. So many people are passionate about pets, you know…
and animals, and if you have the wherewithal to do something, that
has huge value.
Some
people have the money, some people have the wherewithal to do
something, so if you’re one who has the money and you already know
how many people come to you asking you for help with different
things, but you also know if you’ve got money, you also know it’s
very challenging to find someone who will actually…who actually
looks like they’ll actually run the course of doing something.
People
say “Give me the money and I’ll know what to do with it”. That
is totally the wrong way to go about doing something. If you want to
attract energy to something, start working in the direction of it.
Start working in creating. Start the creative process. One great
way to start, you could start with this declaration. Because for one
thing it pulls you above… it starts in the new system and it brings
power to the… it brings energy to the new system. You don’t
have to pay a fee to anybody to use that. Heather provided that
contract, she provided that document. She knew how to make that
document, I didn’t, but she did. We can all benefit by that.
That’s a huge gift. So use it. Start working together with that.
If you want to DO something with somebody start using that document,
that declaration. Post it on your website. It’ll be posted,
there’s one that Caleb and Yousef did with Project XIII because
they’re working together with Project XIII and that will be posted,
I’m not sure if it already is, but it will be posted as a
declaration of contract of value and where that establishes the
jurisdiction of where they’re working above the archives UCC. We
don’t any longer need to do UCC filings because the UCC is
archives. We now need to start working on having tools to work with.
Property, so we can manage property, be custodians of the land so we
can work with our value in a way that we’re one hundred per cent
liable and if we do something that damages somebody else we have a
liability about that and other people can start stepping in.
So
let me just say that the declaration the way that I understand, the
two sides of it that I really wanted to convey tonight, that I think
are helpful to know now is first of all the contract, that
I-declaration that I’ve posted on my website, you can pass it
around, make it go viral, share it , use it. If there becomes a
better document that Heather writes then we’ll pass that around and
we can always amend.
So
everything that you do now you can work with amendments.
Chris:
Mark can I just throw something in there? There are zillions of
people out there who will probably create their own version of this,
not just Heather. If someone comes up with something better, then
anyone can do this.
Mark:
Well Chris, if they create their own version and it doesn’t DO the
job and gets them in trouble then that would be a nuisance. I like
the idea of using Heather’s knowledge. She’s not God like, well
we all are.
Chris:
I am assuming that it meets the lawful requirements.
Mark:
Totally. That’s the part that I’m looking for…
Chris:
But if there’s something that you want to add to it, you and the
person you’re contracting with… put it in there.
Mark:
Yeah, you can put other stuff, but you need all of the prescient
points. You need to leave the content, if you want to add other
things in there then you can. But also you don’t need to add
anything more in that first thing. That’s just a declaration that
you’re going to work together and it establishes the jurisdiction.
It also establishes the value. So from there you work with
amendments and you can post whatever you like, or not post whatever
you like. You don’t actually have to post anything. From then on
you can decide what you do. There’s no rule from anybody, there’s
no rule from the Australian Securities and Exchange Commission or
Investment Commission. Anyway they give rules and you’ve got fees
for everything. Every filing, every time you change your address you
need to pay a fee, get the right form, pay a fee, file. With this
you can just have your own website where you put everything up. It’s
a lawful notice to the world.
Then
Heather’s talking about putting together some sort of a registry
that she can keep her eye on to make sure people aren’t messing
around with it. Like others who would like this to not happen. Also
it makes it easier to search. So if you want to search and say “Okay
does anybody else have the same filing name for example, or if you
want to search for a particular filing and you want to find it, you
can go in a database and find it. It would just be purely a registry.
But you don’t have to have all these rules to follow with fees.
This is just you make a public notice and you establish jurisdiction.
You can also if you wanted to still keep working under all of the
old rules, but they’re all defunct. This is moving into the future
and it’s exciting as can be because now you’re establishing your
jurisdiction above the corporation of whatever country you’re in,
all these alleged countries, these alleged country governments are no
longer in jurisdiction over you. You go and jurisdiction between you
and eternal essence. I know I keep saying it and it took me a while
to wrap my head around it and I think it bears repeating because it’s
super simple and if we get it we can start working in this way, it’s
so exciting because we can now work directly with each other. We
make our own rules with each other. Let’s say we have a really
strong interesting group projects like railroads or these things. We
can come together and work with them.
Brian:
Here’s the thing real quick. Mark why this is so big and I think
this will probably make sense for everybody… you’re DO’ing a
great job in explaining it. I’m learning a lot about how a lot of
the sources are coming together more than I understood before this
call, but before when two parties wanted to come together and create
an agreement the stated operating procedure is that one of them goes
and contracts a lawyer and that lawyer is paid to etch out an
agreement that is going to be in the best interests of their client.
And the other person is basically if they want to get into an
agreement then they have to agree to those terms and usually in a lot
of cases no room for any negotiation and if there is room for
negotiation the attorney is still guiding that ship to make sure
their client stays with all the weight and having the most interest
to be driven to their side of their corner.
Now
this document is saying “Look, this is in the interest of both
parties and it’s in the best interest of all that is” and you
can’t really say in this line of conversation now “Is this legal,
or is this illegal” because all the laws are all phony anyway.
They’re all created by the corporations and they don’t really
have a whole lot of merit where we are going. So it’s in the best
interests of all that is.
Mark:
What Heather was saying, that I didn’t understand the other night,
was that it’s a lawful notice. So essentially you’re moving into
common law. You’re giving lawful notice. It’s the old…
choosing how we interact with each other and it’s just such a
paradigm changer. The fact is people come up with questions that are
fascinating if you watch them, because for myself, the questions that
I come up with like they’re evidence of a long period of mind
control and slavery mentality and victim mentality. Like “Well
who’s going to run the government?” Well what does the
government do? Is another question you could ask. The government
does certain things, it performs functions that actually we could
perform in groups. Human beings are social beings by nature and we
are very social. We prefer to work together. We prefer to belong.
Look
at these Skype groups that have formed up. When nothing’s happening
in there people are just talking with each other because they just
feel like they belong. Like it's annoying to some people because
there’s nothing, sometimes there's nothing being said. It’s just
like, I love you guys, it’s so good to feel like I'm with family.
Well, all that stuff is evidence of how human beings work together.
If you take that and you move that into how we contract, how we work
together as an individual embodiment of eternal essence; we are
eternal essence embodied. And each of us is eternal essence
embodied.
No
one is different in that way. We all behave differently. How we
choose to DO and how we chose to BE, how we chose to DO especially,
we are liable for. Because if we affect somebody else in a good way,
well that actually resonates, people resonate, if people start
working together and saying “Okay I want to work together to
make…”. Like Vera... Vera was doing amazing healing work while
she was in Morocco and so she's starting to look at you know, like
“Let’s make a healing center”. And others are going “Yeah
this is great… let’s make a healing center.” Well it's a
healing center that heals people in a certain way and it might adapt.
Other
people might be attracted to it for other modalities, but some people
would have a real desire to be there and go there and they can make
it so that it's available for other people to come and if they did it
in Morocco which it looks like they might, that would be super fun
too. Because you go there and spend some time there and you heal your
body, have a fun time, maybe learn how to work with some of the
tools, you know get a bit better at working with the I UV exchange
perhaps. Or maybe work with, I don't know, just having fun and
eating together breaking bread you know. It's like magic to just eat
together and like have fun. Like just sit around and talk about dumb
stuff.
(Laughing
in the background)
…really
bonding, it feels great.
Lisa:
Well we did plenty of that while we were there.
Mark:
Yeah it's the meet, it was super fun, super good fun. So what I want
to do is DO it more. You know like I want to do it around the world.
Madrid
was outstanding, you know. Meeting Lisa's friend in Madrid was oh my
gosh, Lisa's friends in Madrid were incredible. Lisa rolls with good
friends. So like you know around the world spreading the word like
you know, we were talking to this guy Raphael. Rapha’s got this
awesome website with this awesome blog where he's got like 500,000
people following him. You know he's just spreading the good word in
Spanish. And we had a chance to have a few drinks and a bite to eat
in this square in this piazza in the middle of whatever you call it
in Spanish in the middle of Madrid. It was outstanding. We got to see
an original Picasso because Lisa's friend was so cool. I mean I'm
talking about life. Let’s start living it in a fuller way where
we're the creditors.
So
the other thing that I wanted to say and sorry to hog this, but the
other thing that I think is really important to get out and really
out because everybody’s asking about these things and I would
really rather talk about it now in one hit and then people can, we
can go into questions afterwards, but it's really important that
people see that the way we start working with these declarations is
establishing our jurisdiction.
And
then we've got the side of the I UV exchange. Now the I UV exchange
when Caleb puts that into Project XIII that will be super cool. I
just totally dig Project XIII personally. I love it. I think that
it's going to be one of the coolest tools on the internet because it
allows anyone to pass information via the internet, which is very
difficult to shut down because it's so decentralized and where they
can send information via the internet in a secure way. Where no one
can see what they just sent. Now that's crazy. I mean I know people
are coming up with questions, good questions but I'll say just rest
your mind at ease.
Some
people are anxious that it was gonna be only three days and data
would be wiped off the servers. Well that’s also, I hassled Caleb
really hard on that and Caleb's really good to work with because if
you’re really reasonable with him he's really reasonable back. He's
very, very reasonable, very logical. Anyway I have a great working
relationship with him. Totally one of my highlights of being in
Morocco was getting to know Caleb and hanging out with Caleb. I'm
loving and really pumped about what he's done with Project Xiii and
what he's gonna do with it.
But
if you look at this Project XIII the way it holds data for a few
days, well it will also have a thing that's be like, oh I'm just
thinking of the name he was calling it, it's like a, it essentially
asks if, it can tell if you haven't come on in, let’s say that you
lose your phone for a few days or you go camping and you’re out of
reach for a few days and you’re not online all the time which I
said “Caleb get a grip man not everybody's online all the time,
like some people have a life too!”
(Laughter
in the background).
Lisa:
Caleb has no concept of that cuz he's online 24/7.
Mark:
“Dude not everybody’s like your friends, a lot of us are trying
to get offline as much as possible”
But
it’ll have something like a, it'll perform other functions as well
which is gonna be awesome, that’ll sort of like hold your space in
RSA encryption, which is a higher encryption whilst your away, for
all the metadata. Then when you come in it’ll download to your
device all of your data.
So
like especially for people who don't have a big network. But if you
do have a network you know you can just come back in and say...look I
don't really want to explain that. What I really want to say is
that's sorted.
Caleb's
a really good programmer and he's working with great teams. Not only
Caleb but I say Caleb because it's mainly Caleb. Project XIII is
Caleb's baby. It’s a huge gift to humanity. I could just kiss him
except he's a guy and he's not as cute as he could be
(Much
laughter).
Brian:
Hey Mark it’s okay I'm not going to tell anybody you already did.
You already did in Morocco.
Mark:
Yeah I did. Don't tell anyone jerk! Such a jerk!
Caleb:
What happens in Morocco stays in Morocco.
(Many
people laughing).
Mark:
I thought we had an agreement.
Lisa:
I've got it on video actually.
Mark:
(Laughing) It's alright. It's all I'm saying. I could kiss him. I
don't even mind saying “I love Caleb,. I totally love Caleb”.
Anyway
so next thing that needs to be explained in a really, and best I can.
this is just from my point of view but I think that it needs to be
said in a way that it’s imperfect, it is my point of view it's not
perfect. It isn't what Heathers, it isn't totally, I don't think it's
totally accurate with what Heathers got planned. But I think it’s
close. I was hoping that Heather would be talking about this stuff
but since she's not here I think people want to hear this stuff as
imperfect as it is. So here it goes…
So
if I say “I got my value”, in fact it isn't 10 billion dollars
it's unlimited. I have my own value but I can say “Okay I've got
an, I've bonded myself to, I bond my value; which is my soul in my
physical body, I vow, I bond it to my I UV my I-currency”.
This
is my value that it's my representation of my value in I-ixchange.
And I say “I've got 10 billion”.
Right
now I've got that. Now we'll also say in the I UV exchange the way it
works is it’s going to be one to one to every currency. So 10
billion I UV is 10 billion euro, is 10 billion US dollars, is 10
billion pesos.
That
straight across the board now what we're doing is running a whole,
we're introducing the new financial system which Heather...
Brian:
That's a hundred billion dinar right? (laughter) that's all I got
Mark:
Yeah, yeah exactly
(Multiple
people talking).
Brian:
(laughing) sorry go ahead.
Mark:
You’re on it. Okay so we go “I got my dinar my dinar's worth more
than your dinar you dingdong”. (laughing)
Now
that's the DONG. The dong is something else altogether.
Brian:
Go ahead Mark I'm sorry. (Laughing).
Mark:
Alright. So you got your... So Heather and I are going to run these
things. I'm a pest when it comes to, look I'm such a pest that I
ended up hanging out with these guys in Morocco. I mean, that’s, I
just kinda kept asking questions and was in Heather’s face and
finally she for whatever reason decided she'd invite me along to the
party.
Now
she’s paying the price because I’m asking a lot of questions and
I’m pretty ... if I don’t get something, I keep asking, even if
it’s really dumb. If I don’t understand it, I just say I don’t
understand it until I do understand it.
What
I do get is that fast as we can, let’s move everybody into this.
What I don’t get yet, fully, is “How’re we gonna bridge to that
where I can buy, where I can pay my landlord who does not get this,
she does not get this”. But she might get this one day, but right
now she does not, and I need to pay rent for where I’m staying, the
house that I’m at. So if I can pay her in Australian dollars, I’m
a happy guy. So if I’m a happy guy I’m gonna stop hassling
Heather. So if Heather can give me some way to work with my value
that I can bond myself to get some value in Australian dollars, I’m
gonna stop bugging Heather and I’m gonna teach everyone else how to
do it.
Lisa:
You make it sound like she’s gonna change the entire financial
system just to get you off her back.
Chris:
Well there’s actually a cue for me here Lisa. That’s the issue
here, there’s real issues to work out on the ground now which are
transient but still need to be dealt with and that’s what Mark’s
talking about.
Lisa:
Of course there is.
Chris:
So, you know, you’d like to buy that old pub and establish it.
Lisa:
So he can be the little terrier biting at her heels on our behalf.
Mark:
I’m the dog that you do not want in your house.
Chris:
Mark, I’m right there with you because the difficulty of getting
the banking system to co-operate is a huge one and this is the
biggest lever we’ve got. Okay? So we really need to pull it and
make it work.
Lisa:
Should we take some calls? We’ve got people with questions.
Mark:
She so will make it work. She is making it work and Heather, even
though she acts dumb sometimes (laughter)…
Brian:
Oh wow. You’re lucky she’s not here for that.
Mark:
She’s so not here and I’m so far away from her right now, she
cannot reach me. I know how long her arms are.
Lisa:
You know she can reach you.
Mark:
Her arms are long but they are not that long.
Brian:
She’ll wait till you’re sleeping my man, you will wake up and
you won’t know what hit you.
Mark:
Heather is such a pain in the butt. I want to tell you this story:
Heather’s a pain in the butt when she gets in your head. So she
hassles you, she teaches you stuff and she’s like, she niggles at
you and she like makes fun of you and plays around. You go “Would
you just leave me alone?”
So
then I go to sleep, this is really fun ‘cause I go to sleep, I’m
slightly more knowledgeable about these things when I wake up and I
know it’s her. It’s really fun working with her but she is a
goober. And she’s not here right now.
Chris:
Mark, the points you make are so prescient because...
Mark:
That Heather is a goober.
Chris:
No no no, not that Heather is a goober...
Mark:
(mumble) She should get on these shows so she can defend herself.
Chris:
Against being a goob?
Brian:
Chris has like talked go ahead Chris.
Chris:
Now look, I was just going to say Mark’s looking for a way to make
this practically work to shift everybody to the I UV and that’s
exactly what I’m looking for, exactly what I’m looking for.
So
there is a process that we’re gonna have to undergo and we can’t
just say “Ping” and it’s just gonna happen like that. It’s
gonna have a finite succession of events to it. It’s pretty easy to
see what they are and we could have endless discussions about exactly
how that plays out in terms of the way the system itself gets morphed
by us to something new.
Mark:
I think we should give Heather like three days, like give her some
time.
Brian:
I think it’s what everybody’s looking for Chris you’re probably
speaking on behalf of everybody and I know everybody in the chat
room, everybody listening on this call and everybody that’s ready
to test, to test out their new I UV wheels. You know what I mean? So
we’re all on the same page in that regard.
Chris:
Yeah. I’m sitting here and I’m listening to Mark and I’m
thinking ‘Gee, you know the bank that actually accepts our bonds is
gonna be the one that will survive.’
Lisa:
Exactly.
Chris:
That’s a good message to get out to your bank manager because
what’ll probably happen is that you’ll find that there’ll be a
bank which takes the plunge and says “Right, we’re gonna do this”
and it’ll probably be a bigger, international bank...okay, say it’s
HSBC or something like that, fine...whoever. I don’t know who’s
most likely to fall off the predetermined peg that they’re all
sitting on. But all of the other banks will have to fall in line or
the end in the end, or the people will walk away from them.
Mark:
I think we really need to do Absent Limits. The reality is we want to
be, we want to know who, we want to be able to buy stuff in our local
currencies. How that might look, that’s a detail that, I think
let’s focus, if we wanna talk about ‘The Collective Imagination’,
the power of the ‘collective’ and the power that we normally give
to… people give several times a day at the same time of day, give
to the, pointing their energy to the tower that then shoots it up
into space where it gets harvested. Or once a week in the temple and
this is us using our creative ability to vision what we want. I
suggest focus on what you want, not the ‘How tos’ being manifest.
Because what you want could manifest in a more efficient way than
what we even, what even Heather or anyone else is envisioning today.
It might actually pull something into focus that’s much, much
better by just focusing on the end result.
Chris:
Yep.
Lisa:
Guys, we’ve only got twenty minutes left so let’s take some
calls.
From
100 minutes in
Martin
(caller): I have two very quick questions. One is I'm gathering, from
everything I'm hearing, there is not yet a concrete process in place
that's going to be…when the I UV Exchange goes live, where we can
actually take that and go somewhere and put on our hands on some
money to pay debts, to pay student loans. There's a lot of us out
here who just have tremendous pressure ...
Mark:
You're correct. You're correct that it's not out there yet. But also
I'll put two things to you. I'd like to say two things to that. One
is, yes you need to have ways to pay things… and that's coming. But
if you use your ability to pay things to feed the system that has
been enslaving you and us by paying off the loans, these are actually
you're paying off loans to banks that are foreclosed on and that then
reinvigorates them.
Martin
(caller): I understand.
Mark:
What I would say to you is this and I'm just wanting to make this
point for everyone to consider. First of all, I think that we need
access to our value in a way that we can buy stuff. That's a
no-brainer.
Second
thing is that we really consider what we do with the debts, the
alleged debts, that were actually fraudulently given to us; that we
were the creditors for those debts. We actually had the value in the
first place. That value was taken from us fraudulently, given back to
us as a loan, as a debt that we had to then repay and then we had to
slave away to repay the debt.
So
what I'm saying is let's have a way to pay for things, but then don't
go just paying off all of your debts. Move forward in a way that you
then have the wherewithal. Why do you need to pay debts? It's simple.
If you're stuck in a debt slavery system, you need to pay your debts
so that you have a credit rating, so that your credit score is good
enough to get another loan to be able to do things. If you shoot your
credit rating out of the sky by doing certain things, you end up with
inability to do stuff. But now we're giving access ... giving people
... giving you and me and everyone access to their value with
different tool sets.
That's
the next thing. I wish it was sooner. I wish it was now. You're right
that it's not right now. I thought it would be. I thought we would
have that available by the time we got out of Morocco. Morocco was
great work. We did important work. We didn't come out of it with
tools that are manifest that you can see right now. However, a great
deal is moving on the international bank trade and finance side of
things, because of what we did and what Heather is doing now. So, I
would just say that's where it's at.
Martin:
I understand what you're saying. I'm coming to grips with the fact
that the foreclosure that's in process on my home may well occur. I'm
also coming to grips with the fact that if I had $10 billion dollars
do I really care.
Lisa:
Exactly. Most people are attached to their home because of the
investment they've made in it.
Mark:
Yeah, but if you have the home ...
Martin:
I feel that way too, but on the other hand (inaudible due to loud
crashing noise) ... probably find a lot of places to spend my time
other than right here…
Mark:
You're also, even if you wanted to stay in your same house like a lot
of people would, they still could and they would have a lot different
position to do that. Their bellies would be full. They would feel
confident because they have some resources to work with. They could
employ other people. They could engage people and learn and get help
from others to deal with it, to deal with things coming. I know you
hear what I'm saying.
Martin:
I do. I understand what you're saying. With the kind of value that
we're talking about, we'll be in a position to ... the shoe will be
on the other foot…
Brian:
I think a good point to make here too, Mark, is that we're going
through a time right now where people are purging the old to make way
for the new. I think that that applies to so many different aspects
of our lives, from it might be relationships. It might be jobs. It
might be places that we live. It might be situations and
circumstances. It's hard to see through the fog right now, but if
you're coming up on the close of a chapter that just means that it's
creating a way for a new chapter to be written.
A
lot of times and in a lot of situations unfortunately that is
requiring people to move out of a situation that they're comfortable
in, but that's just the universe making a way for something that's
going to be on the other side of the rainbow, a whole lot better.
So
right now, I think the most important thing is to keep a good
attitude, follow the energetic trail and know that the universe is
stacking things up perfectly. Everything will always end up on top
with that attitude and that approach to these really tough situations
that a lot of people are going through right now.
Martin:
Yes, a lot of very tough situations ...
Lisa:
Brian, that's the conversation I want to have tomorrow as well, as we
expand on that.
(Lots
of talk over by Mark and Brian).
Martin
(caller): Let me get to the second part of my question, because it's
a different subject and I think it's what a lot of people want to
know about and that is things that we want to do moving forward.
We've talked a lot about all these suppressed technologies, like free
energy and cancer healing mechanisms and replicators and stuff like
that. Wondering how real is that stuff and does it exist?
Mark:
Yeah. Well, there's a lot of technology that I've been working ... I
mean I came into this with a lot of access to technology personally.
So I'm working with people who literally are working on flying
saucers. The free energy side of things, there's stuff that I know
and that I'm working with personally with people that is it’s
exotic. It's like things like a device that tunes in and resonates
with the energy around it and dials in as much energy as you need; as
much energy as you pull out of it, it fills up again. That doesn't
require any fuel; that's just an energy thing.
Brian:
Here's the way you have to look at that particular side of the
question. Go out and watch Hope Girl's ‘Fix the World’
documentary. Anyone who hasn't watched it, it's three hours long.
It's three parts. I realize three hours is a big time investment, but
just watch the first part of it and if it resonates, watch the other
two.
What's
happening with her and her organization, there's people that are
coming out of the woodwork that have been working on propulsion
technologies, replicator technologies; all these different ... I
think it's part of the story that everybody knows that there's all
sorts of technology that has been suppressed that aren't out there
because they're controlled by the banks and the finance and all these
people who know they would lose power when these particular type of
technologies come out.
If
one kind can exist and if you can believe in the idea that there's
something out there that can produce free energy, where does that
ultimately end? There's so much out there that we don't know, so have
I personally seen working prototypes of a replicator machine or a
free energy device? No, but I've heard a truckload of stories of
people that have seen with their own eyes things and concepts that
have been so far suppressed that we're coming up to a time where the
secrets are not going to be able to be kept for much longer. Where
that goes and what ultimately that means for humanity, I think the
chapter of that story is yet to be told, but it is a very important
chapter that's being written as we move into this new shift and this
new paradigm.
Martin:
Are these non-local technologies?
Brian:
That's part of it; non-local. We got the internet from non-locals.
The intel chip came from something that we found inside of a flying
saucer, where they got the technology to create the intel chip. So
much of it is because of the truth embargo, a lot of it is still
chalked up as conspiracy theory or a myth. But a lot of it is true,
a lot of it is bogus. Right now you've got to read between the
lines, but the truth isn't going to be able to ... the illusions
aren't going to be able to be kept in the dark much longer. I don't
know if that answers your question.
Martin:
It does, yes. I know you've got other calls and I'm hogging it, so
I'll hop off.
Chris:
Thank you. Just before you take the next caller, I just want to add
to what Mark's saying about going to the bank with a bond and
converting some of your value to current fiat currency so you can
deal with problems inside the system. Now one of the aspects of that
is if the bank accepts your bond, they're actually also accepting
they've committed fraud against you in the way they loaned you your
actual mortgage. Okay?
So
technically all you really need to do is go to them and say here's my
bond. I want you to put this value into my account. I know that by
accepting my bond you're also going to write off all my debt, without
subtracting this from my value, because I've already paid for it.
Does that make sense, Mark?
Lisa:
Yeah, acknowledging mine is acknowledging all.
Chris:
Correct. Correct, so you shouldn't actually have to say okay, take
this bond and use it to pay off my debt; it's actually already paid
for…the fact that you even know that, and put it right to them will
... again that's just more of an energetic impact.
Mark:
Yeah, so see what I don't get ... this is kind of the part what I
don't get ... it seems to me that if you were to make a bond with a
bank, so that you could use say a certain currency that you want to
use and you’re already your mortgage is defunct, because it's
already a fraud. It's already been demonstrated to be a fraud. That
whole study has been done. The UCC filings were done by the One
People's Public Trust. Heather did those filings with the trustees
that they made the filings and those were done. So Caleb, Heather and
Randall filed the filings that then foreclosed on all those loans. So
really it seems that the real point that we need to move to now is
NOT to go and pay those back, but it's actually figure out how we can
trade and that's the part that really is the next thing.
Chris:
Well the bank will know what's in it for them and what's in it for
them is a fee, so let's negotiate a fee.
Mark:
That's what I was thinking. But I haven't cleared that with Heather
so I don't know if that's what's she was thinking. That's what I was
thinking, how does the bank benefit? Well you just say “That this
is a service that you're providing me and I'll give you bonds of
$300,000 dollars worth of my value I want in exchange for that, I
want a debit card that I can use against it. I want to guarantee that
it's not going to get locked up. I'll give you X amount of dollars
for a fee for doing this for me and I've got an account”. I have
normal account access using a debit card and whatever tools of
internet banking that I need to use in that currency. If I give it to
them in a way that they can lock it up and trade with it then that's
a problem. Because then they do things like they lock up large blocks
of money into medium-term notes. They do these overnight trades. All
the trading platforms get with these different, I mean ... all this
stuff that happens with the value in trading platforms I think is
what we're going to see a change with but that's just my
understanding. Again, I'd like to talk with Heather more about this,
because I don't fully understand exactly where we're going on that.
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