OPPT
IN Show #1
Freedom
Reigns
Santos
Bonacci, Lisa Harrison
Mon
February 4 6 p.m. - 8 p.m. USA Chicago (CST)
Tues
February 5 11 a.m. -1 p.m. AUS- Melbourne
Lisa: Hello
everyone, welcome to the first OPPT IN radio program, the official
one anyway, on the Freedom Reigns Network on Blogtalk. My name is
Lisa Harrison and we’re going to be joined by quite a few people
today including Santos Bonacci, Bob Wright, Chris Hales, D from
Removing the Shackles, American Kabuki, Brian Kelly, also from AK,
possibly Heather from the One Peoples Public Trust. So we have quite
a few updates and information to share with you all today so I’m
going to start by bringing some people in and Santos Bonacci, you’re
where – microphone is now live. Hello.
Santos:
How
are you Lisa pleased to be here.
Lisa: I’m
great. I’m so glad you joined us.
Santos:
Yes,
great to be here. Also I don’t know whether you’re aware of it
yet but Francesca Andogenio (sp) from Italy would like to sit in
because they really want to be updated and they’ll be joining us
too.
Lisa: Lovely,
lovely. If you want to Skype me if they’ve called in already,
there’s still a lot of feedback and echo on your line Santos
(inaudible) or the number they might be calling in from. I’m just
– or maybe it’s Bob. Bob maybe there’s noise on your line.
Santos:
It
was another line.
Bob: I
just muted.
Lisa: Okay
it’s better now. Okay, we’ve also got Chris Hale.
Chris: Yep,
hi everybody I’m here and we’re all in, we’ve OPPT-ed in, we’re
in the panel, let’s do it.
Lisa: Lovely.
Who else have we got? Where have they all gone? Now this is either
Brian Kelly or American Kabuki 760? Hello 760 area code. Should be
Brian or AK. Not talking? Okay.
Brian: Hello?
Lisa: Yes.
Brian: Hello.
Lisa: Yes
is that Brian?
Brian: There
we go. (laughs) American Kabuki and I are both 760 so that was a
little bit confusing but I’m here, I feel like I’m in Australia
and it’s nice, but I’m in well, gosh, it’s not sunny San Diego
today but, I hear you guys loud and clear and glad to be on the call.
Lisa: Right.
Not sunny here at the moment (inaudible) We do expect other people
to call in but I know that you’ve got some updates you’d like to
share and some information you want to put out there Brian so do you
want to kick it off?
Brian: Oh
gosh. (laughs) What are you -- what big info are you referring to
because there’s so much to report today?
Lisa: Well
but I know you had a call out for helpers.
Brian: Oh
yes, okay so yeah we’ll go ahead and get it started. So we are
considering the high volume of live listeners that we had last
Monday, or maybe it was Sunday. It was over 101,000 live listeners.
We’re now in a position where we’re trying to get organized and
there’s a lot of work to be done and you know the conversations
that we’ve had in the last week especially with everything going as
viral as it has and so quickly. We’re now starting on putting
together a lot of various projects to spread the information far and
wide and you know I think one of the conclusions that we’ve drawn
in our talks that we have you know between you and I, Lisa and
Heather and the rest of the group is -- you know -- if we can set the
intention to get really organized and tap into the resource pool that
we have available to us through everybody that’s wanting to
contribute throughout the world and all their countries respectively
then we can get a lot done and very quickly.
So
I’m actually taking notes here on my end but because we -- you
know-- getting organized with that many people is – it’s not
always the easiest thing to do -- is try to prioritize based on the
jobs we think are the most pertinent and the most important to get
done first, and so what we’ve done, I set up a dedicated email
which is opptgroundcrew@gmail.com
and we want anybody that has any experience in web design, video
production, anything that has to do with any writing or journalism,
and I have a list, I’ll pull that list up on my computer and I have
to open it. I’m not prepared right now but I’m going to read it
a little later but what I want everybody to do is send an email to
opptgroundcrew@gmail.com
and in the subject line write “support - - (dash dash) and the
skillset that you can offer, that you can contribute to the cause and
that way we can go through and we can reach out to people
individually and start putting together some projects and really
start taking this thing viral and ripping the Band-Aid off.
Lisa: Ripping
the Band-Aid off, talk about going viral (laughs) I am Free Oppt
In, Ripping the Band-Aid off, these two phrases have gone crazy, I’ve
never seen anything like this go viral, go globally viral, it’s
just been extraordinary. Anybody else want to comment on that?
Brian: Well,
I agree with you. I mean it seems like every day there’s a new
Facebook post popping up or a new Facebook page popping up and
there’s new websites popping up and one of the things you’re
probably going to want to talk about a little bit too Lisa is we’re
trying to do is have a you know a hub to where we can link to some of
the other pages that are coming online all over the world because
there’s just so much out there right now we’ve gone from a couple
dozen to hundreds to thousands and now you know we’re potentially
breaking into the arena of being in the millions of people that have
heard about this and everybody is, they’re geared up and excited
and wanting to contribute and get involved in any way that they can
and that’s so exciting it’s so exciting to see how far we’ve
come in such a short amount of time and with a little bit of
organization, some good ideas and some contributions from folks that
are outside of the people that are talking right now, we can go a
long way, we can go a long way quickly. I mean we’ve already
proven based on how far we’ve come just in the last month so every
week I just really look forward to discussing how much progress we’ve
made from the week before and you know I know we’re going to be
talking a lot about the documents and how to use them and there’s
some great, just unbelievable developments on that end of things but,
you know, because everybody wants to know “how do I use these
documents” “how do I declare my own sovereignty” you know I
look forward to the day when the documents are no longer necessary
but in the end term while we’re still in a time where, we’re
still dealing with the remnants of the slavery systems that are still
in place you know there’s a lot of people that are in really
desperate situations that really want to understand how to, how to
put these into play and I don’t know how much you know if we’re
planning on talking about what Chris has created on this call –
Lisa: Yeah,
yeah –
Brian: --
and putting that new document out there, I’ve read it and it’s
beautiful, I can’t really speak to it, I don’t know, Chris is on
the call, right?
Lisa: Yes,
he is and we’ll discuss it, it’s a beautiful collaborative effort
of several people here in Australia that, as you know as you just
said there’s a lot of people out there who are in really tight
situations now and they’re looking for a remedy right now and
trying to expect people to get their head around the UCC and filings
and all of that sort of thing is a big ask, so I’ll bring Chris in
and let him talk about this document. It’s not available as yet.
I think it still needs one or two checks of approval and when it is,
it’ll go up on the OPPT-IN website which I’ll talk about after
Chris talks about the document. So, take it away Chris.
Chris: Sure.
Hi everybody, we’ve got a big crowd out there today and from what
Deatra’s just posted in the sort of internal chat here, it looks
like it’s bigger than last week which is absolutely fantastic. Now
the document that we’re working on is a relatively simple thing.
It’s not a UCC filing. It’s actually a Notice, and there’s a
very specific way that we’re thinking about this thing being used,
and Lisa if you want me to talk about it now it’s going to take a
few minutes just to explain the background concept that we’re
working with, can I take some time with this? Do you want to it a
bit later in the show?
Lisa: No,
let’s go for it. We’ve got such a long list of things to do,
let’s just deal with it as we go.
Chris: Okay.
All right. We’ve been working on supplying instructions for some
local people on how to do UCC filings and when I say “we” I’m
working with two other guys who I call the Bartles. And Scott Bartle
is the Australian who made the YouTube video called “Frequently
Unanswered Questions of the Australian Government” and if you
haven’t seen yet, look it up on YouTube and it’s absolutely
nailed the Australian government as being a corporate entity. It’s
a really great piece of work and from it he developed an
administrative procedure which is based on the usual sort of three
step administrative procedure but basically called them out requiring
them to prove who they said they were. Based on that concept we
decided that one of the things that we really needed to put out there
was a similar document using the UCC filings instead of this dramatic
flaw that he’d found in the way that the Australian Constitution
had been stepped around by you-know-who. The original Australian
Constitution. So we decided okay so we’ll use the same technique
with the UCC filings and as an initial step that people can use when
the old system tries to interact with them. So when you get a bill
you could use this at any time during a court procedure, and I’ll
explain why in a minute, you can even use this if you handle it the
right way and I have to emphasize you must handle this the right way
if you want to do this when a policeman’s pulled you over onto to
the side of the road you can but you have to do it exactly the right
way so it needs to be firmly in the right place in your mind to know
exactly what you’re about but you could do it. So essentially we
started the discussion by saying well, these UCC filings are
difficult to a point once you’ve done it once it would be fine but
it’s all strange and new could we do something for people they
could use day to day. So we then said okay what’s the landscape?
Why are we using UCC filings for a start when we can simply be
telling them that situation’s changed? Now Scott’s process is
really good for that because essentially it’s a notice, in fact
we’ve headed this one Courtesy Notice. The landscape we’re
currently in is that we’re all private individuals dealing with one
another privately. That is the new paradigm, okay? The old system
actually doesn’t exist on paper and it’s working its way into
reality and we have this – this document will help it give it a big
push in there. Now in that landscape you have a bunch of individuals
playing dress-ups. They think they’re corporations, they think
they’re governments, they think they’re doing all sorts of things
in a structured way to a structure which you know has always been
here and –
Lisa: In
limited liability I might add –
Chris: And
they think they’re in limited liability but they’re not. They’re
actually in unlimited liability. What this document is saying to
them is the game has changed, you are now in unlimited liability, you
might think you’re acting on behalf of a corporation but you’re
actually acting on behalf of a foreclosed corporation that has no
standing in this new environment and as such you’re private
individuals approaching others extorting money from them. That’s
the viewpoint we’ve taken with this first version of the document.
So the first version of this document is essentially saying you’re
committing what’s called a common law tort because we’re acting
at this stage, the lawful side of the new paradigm is common law and
UCC law and Universal law, okay? So if you look at common law if
someone walks up to you in the street and says you dropped that
package on the ground you owe me 50 bucks, they have no right to do
that, that’s actually extortion so we’re calling them out on that
pointing out that they’re actually acting in unlimited personal
liability, okay, they’re acting in the capacity of an individual
without a corporate safety net so they have got to take full personal
liability for every action they take and we’re pointing them firmly
at the fact that the governments and the bank charters have been
cancelled and we’re pointing them at the UCC documents they can go
and look at, and very much this document is about encouraging them to
go “oh, take a step back, I’d better go have a look at these
filings because these people are telling me that if I give them this
parking ticket they can take my house.” Okay so we’re trying to
put, trying to pull the big fear level back on them the way that they
pull it on us and we’re doing it at – in a way that represents
the reality of the situation which they just don’t know yet because
they don’t have the memo. And in using this document you actually
are giving them the memo. The One People’s Public Trust has not
actually gone fully public yet, and to be fair on these people, they
don’t know the situation. Now when you know these – we’re one
of them, they’re one of us. We don’t want to jump all over their
lives necessarily. They don’t want us jumping all over their lives
necessarily. But what this document does is warn them that should
they choose to act on behalf of a foreclosed entity any, extortion
and claims that arise from their response in an individual capacity
they will be held personally liable. Such claim may result in lawful
remedy being brought against respondent and the full extent of UCC
and not limited to UCC commercial bill against respondent’s
personal assets. Okay? That’s some of the verbiage out of the
document, okay? It’s not – we’re not going to sign off and
release it just yet because we need to discuss it in detail with
Heather unless she gives us the big tick and says it’s fine and
essentially –
Bob: One
of the things I really liked about the document is at the end it not
only notified them and told them the reality of the situation that
they’re standing as a private personal individual engaged in
extortion and slavery systems, but it gives them an option at the
end. Could you talk about that?
Chris: Yeah.
Now at this point we don’t want to be jumping on the lives of
everybody, we don’t want to have to go out and make massive numbers
of UCC filings. At this stage, what we want from them is silence.
We just want them to back off. So the very last thing on the first
section of the document it says should respondent cease and desist
any extortionate claims against brought against proponent, actions
against respondent’s personal assets may be averted. So we’re
giving them perfect opportunity to walk away. And we’re saying
with them if you want to act with me in the future, privately and
individually, there are terms and conditions. And the second part of
the document is the terms and conditions. I won’t go into them at
this stage but they’re very clearly stated and most of the terms
and conditions have a dollar value attached to them as all of these
things often do, like if they want to come and talk to you it will
cost them $1,000. Okay? If they want to act in this capacity on
behalf of a foreclosed corporation, if they want to come and have a
beer with you, all that’s up to you. Now, one of the very
important things that we’ve yet to add in here because I thought of
it just as I went to sleep last night was the massive amount of
liability up and down these fictional foreclosed corporations that is
being generated as they currently function. If you’re for instance
a supervisor in the credit department of a credit collection agency
you might have 50 people under you and those 50 people are committing
extortion maybe 50 times a day, which means how many people are they
actually acting against? Who could actually start a UCC filing
against them, so the supervisor in that company might have generated
by instructing people around him, say 200 to 300 extortionate acts
per day which could all come back to him personally as UCC filings if
you wanted to really take it to the inth degree. That’s a massive
amount of liability and that needs to be drawn to their attention.
And of course, it’ll –
Lisa: I
just wanted to reiterate again this is not a final product, it’s
still a work in progress, and only once it’s been fully ticked off
will it end up on the website. It may need to be amended, and it’s
as much an education tool as it is anything else.
Chris: Yes,
it is.
Lisa: We’re
using it to educate those people who are of this belief that they are
acting under a limited liability with the protection of a corporation
behind them.
Chris: Correct.
Lisa: And
use it as such. Once these people understand this, I personally see
a huge shift in the liability of jobs, and companies, and so –
Chris: Exactly.
Now what happened when we distributed this draft to a number of
people we were talking to last night, we immediately got some
feedback from Hopegirl, pointing out it’s a very male energy
document, it’s an old system document which is absolutely correct,
it’s very much so, and that what we’re missing is the opportunity
to do exactly what Lisa says is to introduce the One Peoples Trust to
them in a positive fashion while confronting them at the same time.
So –
Lisa: Speaking
of Hopegirl, she’s on the call, do you want me to bring her in?
Brian: Yeah,
she’s the 978 area code.
Chris: Yeah,
bring Hope in because I’d like her to put this to you guys directly
because this is the real educational side. And the chance we have to
–
Lisa: Hope,
are you there?
Hope: I’m
here everybody, hi.
Brian: Hi
Hope.
Hope: Thank
you so much Chris. Yeah, taking a look at the document, I think it’s
very necessary that we basically inform them of the new system and
put them in a position where they’re forced to make a choice to act
lawfully or do what their bosses tell them to do which is to extort
money out of people but what came up for me is to try to think about
the perspective of the individual who’s in that position whose job
it is to extort money, so I came up with an example of let’s say,
you’re a bank manager, and you get paid to extort money from
people, that’s your job. And so now you receive this notice saying
you have to stop doing what your boss is paying you to do, and or
you’re going to be held personally liable, and I understand the
actions you can just walk away but in many cases they’re walking
away for what? Do they have to quit their jobs, or?
Chris: Well,
actually the document essentially is asking them to cease and desist
interacting with me. If I give this document to – not really
saying you’ve got to walk away from your job, but what it does is
by putting this information in front of them, clearly at some stage
in the future they will have to make the choice that Hope’s talking
about. Okay? But I’ll hand it back to Hope because she had a very
nice take on how we can use this to inform them of the new paradigm.
Hope: yes,
that was just a little bit of the background of the perspective of
the individual when they first receive this notice but I think we
should combine this notice with giving them an option of informing
them about the new system and the new structure and to say if you
want to stop acting unlawfully you can choose this instead. So, just
add on an educational piece where we tell them there’s a whole new
structure. You know, maybe it’s talking about the CVAC’s or
something along those lines, just showing them there’s this other
land of opportunity that they can choose to enter into so that it
turns the entire thing into an offer that they can’t refuse.
Chris: yeah.
Now in – right at this moment in time where although the US CVAC
is technically in place, there aren’t any CVAC’s funded and
operating, we can certainly talk about that as a future option, and
once that change has taken place and there are funded CVAC’s
actually working, we can actually say to them this is a real
opportunity you and your family can do now, you don’t have to live
this way anymore, and point out the difference between the two
systems. I guess what I’m saying is this particular approach we’re
taking will have to morph and change over the coming months as the
situation changes. At the moment it’s being produced for the
current state of affairs. So, and in particular we want this to be
able to be used anywhere on the planet, which is why it’s just a
notice. We’re actually calling it courtesy notice we’re trying
to do them a courtesy by telling them exactly what situation they’re
putting themselves in and what their options are from that
perspective. And in that sense you can translate this into Dutch or
German or French or any language on the planet and it will still have
the effect that we’re after which is to make them sit back, look at
the filings, and realize that uh oh, the game is changed. The
problem that they have is that once they have this information, they
know that the liability is theirs. While you’re acting in
ignorance there’s always a certain argument from, well I just
didn’t know because no one told me. Once they’ve got the memo
and they know, and you have proof that they know, that becomes more
difficult. Now we’re not trying to necessarily corner these people
because these people are our friends and neighbors but we are trying
to bring them up short and stop them from interacting with you in
this fashion. It’s quite possible you can use this when you’re
right in the middle of a foreclosure because you are approaching
these people as private individuals so every person that you’re
dealing with, that’s every lawyer, every judge, every bailiff,
everyone involved in that action against you can receive this notice
or whatever final version goes out there, and it will most definitely
draw their attention to the reality of the situation that they’re
in and it will have great meaning to those people because they don’t
know, they may not know what’s going on at the moment but when they
do it’ll be a really short, sharp shock for them and that’s the
effect we’re trying to have but at the same time as Hope’s
interjected, we’ve got the feminine side, which is yes, Daddy just
gave you a smack up the side of the head but now Mommy’s going to
tell you that it’s actually not so bad because it’s temporary.
Lisa: Mommy’s
going to kiss it and make it all better.
Chris: yeah
pretty much. The balance is something that we want to pull back into
what we’re actually doing, and it’s no coincidence we started
talking to Hope because that’s exactly what happened as soon as we
did, so look out for this document, we’re hoping to finish this in
the next couple of days and get it up on the site. There is a
conversation that I had with the Bartles, and by the way, Ken
Bartles, Scott’s dad, turned 71 today so happy birthday Ken, and
thanks for all your help.
Lisa: Happy
birthday Ken
Chris: Now
Ken is also, Ken’s another guy whose live is no coincidence, he’s
been interested in and researching principles behind government for
decades and has suddenly found himself sitting in front of the CVAC
specifications and he’s actually the guy who’s generating the
initial pass of what we’re calling the CVAC primer which is
exploring the actual critical parts of the CVAC documents, which we
put aside just for a moment just to get this particular document out
because we’re fairly confident we’ll be able to finish it
quickly, that people will be able to use it and it will have an
effect pretty much everywhere it goes and that’s a really positive
thing and it’ll keep everybody’s momentum, give people something
actively that they can do should they so choose. Now you don’t
have to do this. You’ve got to be confident and stand in the space
to use these kinds of tools, but there are many many people out there
who are just raring to go with this and I need to remind you too that
the enforcement in this ultimately goes back to UCC law and
completing the filings properly, perfecting a Commercial Bill, and
then enforcing it by whatever means you can through the system, be it
sheriff, bailiff, until such time as the enforcement through the CVAC
comes online, where we will hopefully have bonded volunteers from
U.S. military and possibly from elsewhere as well who will act on our
behalf. And again we’re not about necessarily, you know, messing
up people’s lives because we don’t really need to be doing that
but if someone’s trying to foreclose on your house you have every
right to take actions that are lawfully available to you if they’re
acting unlawfully. So I’ll leave it at that, it’s as much as we
need to say at the moment and we’ll get on with the show but do
keep an eye on the OPPT In website over the next few days.
Lisa: Okay
Hope, was there anything else you wanted to to add to that before we
get to the next thing on the list?
Hope: No,
I think that was said pretty well and thanks so much for having me,
it’s a pleasure to be here.
Lisa: We’re
glad to have you here.
Chris: Indeed.
Thanks, Hope.
Lisa: D,
are you with us?
D: I’m
here.
Lisa: There
she is.
D: I
had myself muted, as usual. It happens.
Lisa: I
wanted to just say, call out an absolute “you rock” for your
“What If” blog post, I thought it was brilliant. If you haven’t
read it yet, please go to Removing the Shackles and read, “What
If.” I think it’ll put a lot of the disinformation and the
questions and concerns and confusion that people are experiencing
into really clear perspective, she’s written it so simply and
beautifully. I actually wanted to read it out during the show but
I’ll just tell everyone to go there and read it for themselves. I
think you did a great job on that one.
D: Well,
thank you, hon. It was one of those, I was sitting there trying to
figure out how to get it across and my husband looked at me and said,
well you should write about “what if” and you should just say,
you know, what if this is happening but this is what it really is and
it literally hit me in the head and I was like, okay, I have to go do
this right now. I went back to the computer and typed the whole
thing out in one shebang.
Lisa: Nice.
The audio just went out but I still heard you. Not long after I’d
read that I was in the shower and it was one of those rare moments
you have to yourself and like, an infomercial flashed in my mind. So
picture this. You’ve got this flashy, bright colored infomercial
on and it says, you know, welcome to freedom. And there’s a really
cheesy voiceover and it says, we’ve repackaged your slavery system,
it’s now covered in fake gold glitter and we’ve decorated it with
shiny objects for your distraction, and we’ve lengthened your
lease, so you know, welcome to Slavery 2.0, a more comfortable form
of slavery. And I cracked myself up in the shower, I have to say,
and I thought that’s kind of what they’re doing is repackaging it
and making it a little more sparkly and lengthening the lease and
that’s what they’re on and nothing changes.
D: No
and that is the point that has really been hitting me so strongly
over the last three weeks but especially the last even five or six
days, so much so the more to use, Heather’s favorite words, the
more data that comes in –
Lisa: D,
D, we’re losing you, you sound like an android.
D: (laughs)
I’m not an android, I promise
(laughter)
D: Can
you hear me okay?
Brian: we’ve
had some bad phone connections today, I just want to throw that out
there so we’re going to send out some energy to bring out some good
ones for this call.
D: So
maybe I should close some of the 18 windows I have open on my
computer, I don’t know, that might help.
Brian: It’s
already working better, D.
D: Okay.
No, what I was just saying is, it’s really been hitting home to me
in a most spectacular fashion over the last few weeks but especially
in the last five days, just exactly how much wool they’re trying to
pull over everyone’s eyes with this. Of course, then all this
stuff came out about Madame Wu, and you get one side saying this, and
one side saying that, etcetera etcetera, and it’s all kind of like
the shell game. You know where you have the little pea under one
shell and you shuffle them around and shuffle them around and trying
to distract the person and that’s what it’s like. There’s
always something that comes to the fore to distract people. Oh let’s
talk about this now, let’s talk about this now but let’s not talk
about the real issues. And that was the thing that came to me while
I was writing this last night. This is it, it’s really
straightforward really, you know, exactly. There’s a new financial
system but it’s still the same banks. You know? There’s a new
government but it’s still the same politicians. Okay, really,
let’s look at this realistically. How much change is happening? I
think someone’s just giving us gilded cages to live in.
Chris: And
D, I view this as just getting a new set of gangsters.
D: It
is. That’s what I said, all it is is a dynasty change. This is a
dynasty change from one cabal to another cabal. This cabal over here
has gotten powerful enough to force this cabal over here out of the
picture.
Brian: Think about how convoluted NESARA has got. How many websites are there that’s all they talk about it NESARA and what NESARA originally was, no one really knows. It’s just an evolution now, and that’s something that’s been out there that’s now been so convoluted that, I mean, I shy away from even trying to read about it anymore.
D: You
know, I read everything about it because within each one you’ll
find some pieces of truth that you can glean from it but the truth of
the matter is, with NESARA, when the lawsuit was won it was closed
off by the judges, the Superior Court, that no one could talk about
it on pain of treason. So anything that’s coming out is rumor,
speculation yes there are some facts for sure, but the reality of it
is we really don’t know exactly what was in that final outcome.
Chris: D,
just for the people who don’t know that much about NESARA, NESARA
can only be switched on if you like, is it by the president, or is it
by your supreme court?
D: (laughs)
I don’t’ know. Quite straight truth, it’s who you ask, it has
to be the supreme court, to the best of my understanding it has to be
the supreme court.
Chris: Who
are owned by whom?
D:
Well we all know where they got the fancy letters at the end of
their names from. This isn’t to say that there aren’t good
people who were involved in this originally this isn’t to say that
NESARA wasn’t a brilliant idea and a brilliant plan at the time
that it was conceived and put together, that has never been what I
have been saying about it and I think that a lot of people have
misunderstood that, what I am saying is the fact that is has been
usurped by the cabal, so basically it is like, ok, we need a plan,
here we’ve got this here, so we’ll use it like this and we’ll
give them this and we’ll give them this and yeah we’ll give them
some money back and we’ll make it sound all lovely and shiny and
wonderful but the reality of it is, as I said, it is still the same
banks in charge of your money, it’s still the same politicians,
it’s still the same authorities that are patting you down and
checking your passport and people need to think about that. Why do I
have to prove that I am not a criminal, isn’t it, innocent until
proven guilty? So why do I have to prove when I cross the border that
I am not a criminal.
Bob:
One
of the things I find interesting in all this D, all of those
different programs and you know with Neil Keenan, NESARA all of those
different things, where are they going? They hit a dead end and they
just stalled and what I am seeing is anything that does not fit into
this new paradigm, where there is no hierarchical structure, where
everyone has equality, anything that doesn’t fit that model just
kind of stops and when Heather said we’re keeping the powers that
were at bay, this is what I see happening, all their plans just stop.
But
look at what is gaining momentum, all of those ideas that are of pure
intent, all of those ideas that are for the benefit of humanity are
being front and literally, people are throwing whole different
paradigm schemes to rewrite everything from education to
environmental clean-up, people are just presenting themselves, I’ve
been watching the chat room, our little private chat room where we do
our little planning sessions and some of the things that are just
presenting itself for solutions to problems before we even knew we
had the problems and it’s amazing it’s just incredible to watch
this happen and I think it’s just a matter of things being in sync
with what the new paradigm is.
(Several
talking at once)
Brian:
Is Hope still on the line right now?
Lisa:
Sorry…
Brian:
Is Hope still on the line?
Hope:
I
sure am…
Brian:
There she is…I had a conversation with Hope. Hi Hope, what was it
maybe two days ago we talked for about an hour and I had read Hopes’
Fix The World Business Plan, but I had never talked to her, one on
one, about it and I was…how could I say it…blown away, by the
development that she has done and the amount of response, Hope was
it… 37 countries…How did you sort through all of that
information? I mean she put out the clarion call and I mean Hope
there are probably a lot of people that are listening on the line
right now that are familiar with the Fix The World Business Plan and
a lot that aren’t, why don’t you explain that a little bit so
people can really understand the scope of what you are working on.
Hope:
Well the Fix the World Business Plan which is for the Fix The World
Organization came from, the Fix The World Project and back in
September, I felt, you know, I put out the call to all humanity, to
say, what are your solutions for all of these problems that we have
in our world? And close to 300 people from, 37 countries, wrote in
essays, with all of the answers and they’re all based in the new
paradigm structure. So now we are face to face with these same
questions and the people have already provided their own answers, and
how I did it, I had a team of 20 volunteers to sort through all the
essays, we had an entire process that we did, in order to glean out
the information we needed so that we could put it into a summary but
the result was a 700 page document, with every answer to every
problem that we have, that came straight from the people and so from
that we put together the Fix The World Organization which is
basically just a way to organize the implementation of those answers
and give the people the ability to empower themselves and give them
the tools they need to organize themselves so they can take those
solutions, go out and implement them out in the world.
Brian:
Beautiful
Lisa:
Brian did you want to address anything about a press release?
Brian:
Oh sure, real quick, this is so awesome, the emails are flooding
in, right now already, for the announcement that I made earlier in
regards to people sending emails in for support, I want to real quick
before I talk about the press release, let me, let me just list off a
few categories that we are looking for, cause I love, I love what I
am seeing right now, Valerie, Valerie, by the way, I am going to be
giving you a call about your voice over capabilities and how you can
contribute that, so amazing ones, so here is the list so I can run
through it, cause it is sitting right in front of me and I didn’t
have it earlier, so printing, branding, brand management, mobile
marketing, anything marketing, graphic design, web, art directors,
print publication, UI/UX designers, anybody that has any skills at
web design, writers, editors, programmers, administrators, web
scripting, strategic planning, project development, project
management, advertisers, new media online, anybody that has a knack
for you-tube, or promotions, artists, editors, I mean the list goes
on and on so the email one more time, we’ll probably say it again a
couple of times for anybody that calls in late is support, oh excuse
me, it is opptgroundcrew@gmail.com
and in the subject line write, Support—what you can contribute, if
you want to do a little email and explain it a little bit more and
then include a link to some of your work that would be great. Thank
you everybody
Lisa:
He also wants them to include their country you want them to include
their location
Brian:
Yeah good call, thank you so much…
D:
Brian…if you could send that whole shebang to me I will actually
post that up on RTS tonight, so that people can visually look at the
list and get an idea, cause some people don’t realize they have a
magically hidden talent that could help
Brian:
(laughs) and videographers, photographers, publication I don’t
want to forget about those either
Lisa:
Can I just make…Brian, I feel like I need to add the legal, I
don’t want to forget about the legal, you are asking for volunteers
Brian:
Yes
Lisa:
And these are not paid positions and whatever is produced the final
product there is no ownership of --
Brian:
Correct.
Lisa:
It’s all serving a purpose, serving a cause, you don’t own the
final product and it will be collaboration.
Brian:
Yes…yeah,
it’s really important that we put that message out there, I mean
OPPT the original trustees Heather, Caleb, Randal they’ve really
made it a very important point that they don’t accept donations,
they don’t pay salaries, they don’t accept sponsors, and we are
really trying to make sure that we stay pure and wholesome on that
front, so you know all the work that we are doing on this call no
body is being paid for it, I’m doing this work because I want to
see humanity free, I am volunteering my time and my energy in
exchange for the benefit of being able to contribute and a little bit
of gratitude in return, it’s that not even that, I mean, that’s
kind of one of those things that we’ll be very grateful for anybody
that’s willing to contribute but if you are looking for a full time
gig or will work for peanuts it’s probably not the direction that
we want to go, so that’s the idea and everything that we do, is for
the collective to support the greater good of everybody. Yeah, thank
you Lisa, it’s very important that we put that message out there
before we take this any further as far as rallying the troops and
really getting organized.
But
each project, we are going to have multiple projects, each project is
going to have a team of people that are going to work, that are going
to help to accomplish the project, the projects are in development
right now and by the time we have our next show, within the next week
I’ll have the various projects organized and we’ll be able to
figure out where there is still open places for the needs of any
particular skill set so we can ask in more specifics than kind of the
broad strokes I am putting out there right now, you know anybody that
is willing to contribute we are so grateful for the offer, the amount
of love that had been pouring out already, it’s just, I mean, it’s
beautiful…
Just
real quick, when Hope and I talked the other night, the topic has
come up, if everybody doesn’t have to…who is going to sweep the
floors and who’s going to…do all the jobs that nobody wants to do
anymore, yeah I think that we’re going into a time where once
everybody is truly free we are going to be operating on such a
different mindset, we are going to be living in a society where, when
a job needs to get done and it is in support of the greater good of
the whole of humanity people are going to be willing to step up and
do it even if it’s not something they necessarily would view as
their dream job or what they would want to do forever, it’s hard to
understand that kind of environment because we’ve been so
conditioned to believe that the world we live in today is normal and
it is so far from normal and that is what we are all working towards
right now. I just wanted to throw that out there because it really
does apply so if some of these jobs that we need, it’s all in
support of everything that we are doing and it’s amazing how it is
all coming together. I can’t wait to hear about your flashmob idea
Lisa but I’m not going to spoil that for you right now.
(laughing)
Bob:
Brian, one way to illustrate it, it’s like this, if you walked into
a room and you see a perfectly well cleaned, brand new carpet and
there was one piece of paper on it, your first intention would
probably be to pick it up, but if you walked into that same room and
it was covered and littered with paper and you had a piece of paper
in your hand, you are more likely to drop it on the ground than to
clean up all the paper and it’s just a matter of perception, and
when you start to see what we are building and you see that vision of
that new world, you are more apt to pick up that piece of paper than
you would be to drop it down, this is what I think everyone needs to
focus on, what we are heading to, what could be, when we all start to
work together…
Brian:
Exactly…yeah, that was Bob right?
(Several
talking at once)
Hope:
I would like to say one more thing, that we have to remember that is
there is going to be a transition period between the two and that is
where we are going to need to really hold each other’s hands to get
through that transition from where we are to where we are going to
be.
D:
Absolutely.
Chris:
Yep…the conversation has been up to this point focused on the
current issue which is the fact that the corporations have been
foreclosed upon but the conversation is just now starting to move
into what actually is life under this new situation going to look
like, now tomorrow on The Collective Imagination Show, we are having
a guest on who’s one of these very connected individuals, connected
to Source, and he had a big download about five or six days ago and
was actually given a very, very interesting picture of what the
CVAC’s could look like and we are going to have a conversation with
him because it’s quite detailed and the conversation will probably
give us a whole new, lots of little hooks into how we can practically
deal with the sorts of things that are going to happen in the
transition and we’re hoping that we’ll spur much wider
conversation and get people thinking in a more comfortable fashion
about it instead of saying ooh…I just don’t know what it’ll
look like and that’s certainly part of the hand holding that Hope
speaks of, it’s part of the transition and we are going to get a
perspective on it, it may not be in reality what we co-create in the
end, but we think it will be a pretty exciting thing to listen to,
that’s tomorrow on Collective Imagination so if anyone wants to
join us there that would be great, because this is the direction it
has to go, it’s going to be a very, very, very interesting time.
Brian:
Yeah,
yeah…thanks Chris, I look forward to it, I love having that
conversation and that set of thing it always a really nice follow up
on the talks that we have here on OPPT which is now every Monday and
it’s going to get more and more exciting every week.
You
asked me Lisa, you said to talk about the press release, so a press
release has been developed and we’re making some, it’s already
gone out and I’m not going to send the information out on it yet
cause we have a couple of minor adjustments, very minor, but that we
are going to be making here in the next hour or two, but we’ll be
putting it out on the website, it’s already, I mean we are talking
about news media outlets, it’s going to be going around the world,
there’s a gentleman, who I am not going to name his name for
privacy reasons, but he’s got one that is going out on PR web
tomorrow, and he’s done lots of ground work to make sure this thing
goes all over the place so for anybody that’s on the call that is
interested in sharing this information with anybody that they know be
it friends, family, neighbors, on their Facebook, social media or
with local news media outlets this is a really great document that is
simplistic by design to really just kind of cover the facts and point
people in the direction of doing more of their exploration but it’s
very succinct, it flows well and it’s exactly what we’ve been
looking to put out for a while now, so, what’s really great about
right now is what everybody has been asking for is now coming to the
table, everybody wanted something that they could use to apply the
documents and the UCC filings and Chris you and your team has been
working on that, they have been looking for official press release
documents and now we have this and we have what is going out on PR
web and I am sure there are many others we don’t even know about,
that is the grass roots ability of this movement is the most
fascinating thing because I go on and I see things that people have
done and it’s not hokey pokey type stuff it’s elegant and
beautiful, so much talent and energy has gone into creating this
information for people to share that it’s just mind blowing, as far
as this one that we have probably within an hour after the show we’ll
send it out to RTS, American Kabuki and we’ll give it to you Lisa
and anybody that is willing to share it by all means let’s spread
this thing far and wide.
Lisa:
We’ll announce where you can find it also on tomorrows TCIs show,
Collective Imagination Show
Brian:
Perfect
Chris:
Brian that’s going out to all the news agencies around the place?
Brian:
Correct, yeah, especially the one that is going out on PR web, I’ll
send it to all you guys and this one will be going out tomorrow, it’s
going through a network that will eventually works its way into, let
me see, how many different channels, hundreds of media channels.
Lisa:
What about Director Ordin? (The name is garbled)
Brian:
Yeah, I’m not really sure what I can do, let me see, the guy that
put the PR web one together, I was reviewing earlier, maybe I can try
and get him to pop into the cue as a caller when we go on to the next
topic I’ll see if I can, cause I know he is probably listening but
I have no idea what his area code is but I’ll forward this on to
you guys to take a look at right now but this particular one I am
talking about right now will go out and go live tomorrow and we’ll
talk about it on the show tomorrow night.
D:
Oops, I’ve already posted it
(Laughing)
Chris:
Whoops…
(Laughing)
D:
Sorry Brian…
Brian:
Oh…oh, you posted it D?
D:
Yes
Brian:
Ok, all right, I guess it’s out there, go to Removing The Shackles
(laughing)
(Several
talking and laughing at once)
Chris:
Brian we’ll do our best to get the document we have been working
on out there as well so that will start flowing quite quickly I would
say and add to the effect of the press release we hope…
Brian:
Perfect, yeah, awesome, they all go hand in hand so I will be
looking forward to another call in another week where all of these
documents are now viral. I was having the thought when you guys were
talking about the document Chris that you and your people have been
working on, that it would be, it’s one thing to have people blog
about their experiences with it, but man how awesome would it be if
we had little hidden cameras that actually video tapped peoples
facial expressions when reading it on the other end. (laughing)
Chris:
That could be very interesting.
Lisa:
Brian, could you repeat the ground crew email address again please?
Brian:
Yeah, it’s opptgroundcrew@gmail.com
and then go to Removing The Shackles tonight if we can get D to put
the list out on her blog tonight and then we’ll have all the list
of everything, it sounds like a big list, it’s really not, if you
feel, here’s what I also want to throw out there, if you feel like
you have a skill set that you can contribute and you have an idea on
how it can be put to work for the greater good, send me an email and
tell me about that to, I mean, we can only come on this call up with
so many great ideas, some of the best ideas I’ve heard so far have
been through emails that I have received, so if you’ve got good
ideas, send an email, title it “Idea” and let’s hear what
you’ve got, if we like it we’ll throw it out there…
(Several
talking at once)
Chris:
Brian, I’ll need to talk to you about getting permission to
include that press release in this document kit
Brian:
Perfect…of course
Chris:
Tie them together.
Brian:
You got it, Chris.
D:
The other thing I just wanted to say about the press release. I've
been involved in several grass roots campaigns, where we have done
blasted out press release. A lot of people get really frustrated,
because you send out a pile of press releases. You send them to your
local CNBC, CNN, and Reuters, your mainstream newspapers. They get
very like, no one called, no one did anything. It didn’t get picked
up. The important thing to remember is you can force the mainstream
media from the bottom up to cover a story.
I’ve
had very, very good luck in putting it out. You hit the small media.
The little community newspapers, college radio, college newspapers,
little small ones are willing to pick up on these things, because
they're not under the thumb of the controllers as much. Put it out
with them and if you get enough of the smaller more local media
picking up on it, it becomes an issue that the mainstream media has
to pick up on it. Because if they don't, it’s like the Occupy
movement. Two weeks in and mainstream media wouldn’t touch it. But
it was a viral all over the world on all the alternative media. When
the pressure is too big, they have to step up and start talking about
it. Otherwise, it becomes very blatant that they're not talking about
it.
Lisa:
D, one of those things that I'm going to talk about is going to add
to that pressure.
(several
talking at once)
Brian:
One thing on that too, D, I think is a good point to make here is
we're not necessarily relying on these press releases to get the word
out to the world. It's just what we're working on right now; it's a
part that supports the whole. When we talk to Heather, it's very
clear in many of the conversations that we've had that the OPPT is
just a piece of much bigger puzzle that's playing behind the scenes.
It
plays a very important role, but it is not the whole. You can say
every small part does have a representation of the whole inherently
by its very nature of being a part. There's so much going on behind
the scenes, some of which I feel like I understand. Some of which I
don't. Some of which no one is supposed to know about until it
actually happens and occurs. Everyone's been talking for a while
about so-called announcements, announcements coming. Ultimately what
we're doing with these press releases, we're supporting that whole,
in that when the big announcements are made, whenever they're made,
whether it’s tomorrow or a week from now or a month from now or
whenever, that might be, they're supporting information for people to
go and find to help them to find their own truth. Help them study and
research and figure out what resonates with them and what's true to
them.
There's
a very large percentage of the population that’s out there that
will fight truth tooth and nail because they’re so comfortable with
the reality that they live in now. But they'll chalk up anything like
this as too far-fetched and conspiracy theory and that's fine. We're
going to be coming to a point in the very near future where it’s
going to be hard to argue the reality that's unfolding. We've talked
about it before. It’s not necessarily anybody’s job to wake
anybody else up, but the alarm clock is going to be so loud soon,
that you can hit that thing with a hammer and it's not going to shut
off.
Hope:
Hey, Brian, I have to say something. For anybody listening, for all
the OPPT newbies out there, I'm drafting up an OPPT primer basically
to just help people make those connections themselves to start from
the beginning, to explain what all of this means, where it all comes
from, with all the different links and resources that people can go
back and read for themselves. I'm jacking it up Hopegirl style for
the rest of the people to try to bring that awareness to individuals.
It's coming soon. It will be on my blog.
Brian:
Hope, where does one find time to do such a thing when they're out
fixing the world?
(general
laughter)
Hope:
I know...right!
(general
laughter)
Brian:
I look forward to reading that, Hope. Once again, thank you for all
that you do, beautiful work that you've done.
Hope:
Thank you for all that you do…everybody here…this is wonderful.
Lisa:
Okay, guys, we've actually got 35 calls on the line, hoping to get in
and ask a question. We've got quite a few updates to get through as
well. So we need to really kick this in. So...updates. If you
haven’t already, please go to the OPPT-IN Facebook page, post your
photograph, I Am Free, OPPT-In, something along those lines. Look at
the photos that they've got. Share them on your timelines. Help
spread the word.
Get
people asking, “What the hell's this OPPT-IN business all about?”
To counter to that, we’ve also got the OPPT-OUT Facebook page. This
is the result of a couple of steps. Caleb made a great comment about
opting out of the old system. Heather loved the idea and thought we
could do it exactly like this, as a counter to OPPT-IN. We are
looking to provide and get your input on really creative, fun ways of
opting out of the system. I love the idea of flash mobs personally.
You can use this space to go there and put your ideas in, connect
with other people in your area if you actually want to do something
as a group, in person, at a location. Maybe it’s everybody meets at
the front of the building where you get your passports from, does a
dance, sticks passports in a bucket and hands them back…or your
driver licenses, or whatever it is, your birth certificates, or at
the bank, closing your accounts. These are just suggestions. Whatever
ways you'd like to try and opt out of the system. Do it with style.
Do it with fun, Be creative about it. Take photos, Take videos. This
is the place to post them and share them and connect with other
people who are doing the same in your area. That's that. Anybody want
to comment on that?
Brian:
I want to hear what the flash mob idea is about more, but I know we
got a lot of callers. (chuckle)
Lisa:
Yeah, I'll just get through these updates nice and quick, so we can
get to the callers. The other thing was beware of…because it tends
to happen…disinfo sites that are going to look like they're related
to the One People’s Public Trust, but may not. They usually are
pretty quick on the heels of any positive movement. All we can do at
this point on this show & on the TCI show is let you know what
sites we know of that we can find reliable information, and also on
D's website and American Kabuki's website at the moment. There's no
way for us to brand our website or put out a tick on it to say the
trustees have looked at this and it's legit, or anything like that,
because anything we do like that can be stolen. At the moment, I
would rely on Removing the Shackles and American Kabuki and these two
radio shows. That may change and evolve and that's great, but just to
be aware of it, because it usually happens.
Okay,
what's next? The flash mob, this was yet another brilliant idea that
came up from Brian Bradley. It's going to be an online Facebook
flash mob. So tomorrow night, during the TCI show, whenever that
happens to be in your area, The Collective Imagination show here on
Blogtalk, we will be doing a real-time Facebook flash mob. We're
going to go to the CBS Facebook page and blast it with comments,
using some of the tags that we already have. I am Free, OPPT-IN,
OPPT-IN now, the One People’s Public Trust website; anything that's
relevant. Ask them, “Please talk about it. Please comment on it.
Why have you not commented? Why haven’t you given this any
attention? Why haven’t you given this any of your time?” Just
blast the CBS Facebook page. Join us tomorrow on The Collective
Imagination and we will hit go at some point during the show. That's
the plan. It's the CBS new Facebook page.
Brian:
(chuckle) So, anybody that's listening that has other ideas like
that… (chuckle) ... please send it in.
Lisa:
We may do it every week. Pick a different site.
Chris:
Hey, I'd just like to remind everybody of the magic of numbers.
If
there's a hundred thousand people listening to this call, you don’t
need that many emails hitting the inbox of the marketing department
of a TV station or the news department of a TV station or a radio
station for them to start to sit up and take notice. What if your
major local TV stations all got five thousand emails, saying, “Hey
aren’t you reporting on OPPT? With a copy of the press release.
Eventually, it has to push through as D was saying. It's always about
the numbers, folks, and we have the numbers. We are the numbers.
Lisa:
This was just put through...another great tag is, "Disclose
Absolute Data Now".
Chris:
Thumbs up. Thumbs up.
Brian:
I'd hit the Like button if I could.
Lisa:
(chuckle) That's actually it for all the updates that I have. Does
anybody else have an update or can we start bringing in callers?
Brian:
I think that pretty much covers it. I'll probably come up with
someone. Yeah, let's bring in callers, Lisa. Go for it.
Lisa:
Okay, area code 646. If you think that's you, just say Hi. Area code
646? Hello?
Caller:
Hello? Oh my goodness, thank you. I'm Rick. How are you?
Lisa:
Hi, Rick. I'm great. Thank you.
Brian:
Hi, Rick.
Rick
(caller): I had my headphones in and I guess it muted my mike.
Anyway, I'm glad you can hear me. I'm really amazed at what you
people are doing. Do I have just a second to tell you about what's
going on with me and what I'd like to do to be involved with what
you're doing?
Lisa:
Yes, if you can keep it short, I'd love to hear it.
Rick
(caller): Alright, great. Well, I moved from New York City to rural
New England about a year ago. I'm loving it. Everything is just kind
of unfolding in what feels like a magical way. The more I'm away from
the metropolis, the more I feel a serious sense of clarity and
release from this mass illusion. I've been listening to what's been
going on with OPPT for a while now. Recently I watched a few films,
Ken Ford's (????) documentary, "Samsara" and I also
watched, "Beasts of the Southern Wild". I kind of as an
artist...I'm a composer and a writer and a playwright...I got this
sense of like a combination of, I need to get this information out in
a narrative form.
I
also got this sense of overwhelm, because there's such a broad
spectrum of culture and belief and experience and what you wonderful
people are doing. You're enacting this paradigm shift that will
impact literally at the global level. I'm kind of overwhelmed I guess
as I imagine a lot of people who are still utterly stupefied by the
system and they're still locked into it. So I’ve been listening and
I’ve been jabbering a lot of things during your talk of the last
hour but I feel like we’re gaining this momentum towards a
quickening so this question is particularly towards Bob because I
consider him kind of the Yoda of your group, actually.
(laughter)
Chris: We
actually call him “Guru Bob.”
Rick: That’s
very appropriately put. Bob’s my dad’s name and I miss him a
great deal. So Bob is always a name that means a lot to me. And I
would like to just – I think it was mentioned last week that
someone said that it took slaves that were freed after the Civil War
up to a year before they were actually convinced they were free. I
think we’re going to be hitting a lot more of a momentum because
we’ve got the internet and a lot more powerful communication at our
disposal but the cultural – the cultural malaise and the cultural –
the trance is so thick. What are just some of the ideas that you
folks are talking about to break out of this? I know we’re talking
about marketing and memes and buzz phrases and stuff like that which
is all good, someone actually mentioned ripping off the Band-Aid and
I said, “Oh, you know about OPPT?” And they said, “No.” So
it’s even permeating beyond the people who have actually started
the meme, rip off the band aid. So I’m really so excited about
what you’re doing and what you like plug into it but I’m also –
up here in the wilds of northern Connecticut and want to just – I’m
going to be emailing Brian, no worries about all that, but just so
powerfully connect with what you’re doing. And how, Bob, how do you
find the best way of breaking people out of their stupor? I know
it’s not our job to wake people up but there’s a big thick
Superbowl-sized stupor out there. What is a primer for this? What
are first baby steps for doing that? I don’t know.
Bob: Well
I think it’s different for every person when they finally wake up
to the idea but I think it starts with asking questions. Because
ultimately you start asking, and questions that you traditionally may
not ask. Why are you now okay with this? Why are you not okay with
the way the world is? Why – you know is this situation – you
know – causing so much grief for you? And ultimately you’re
going to have to say it’s because it’s not how I choose to live.
It’s not the way I choose to be. And then you’re going to have
to ask that question, well then who are you? Because it’s really –
one of the things that wakes people up is when they start asking
questions. So maybe you can ask those questions for them. Something
that they haven’t considered before. You know and one question
sort of leads to another. And once they start questioning – why do
you think only one percent of the population has all the money? You
know? Just get them to think. To question things that normally they
don’t have time to do. You know it’s one of those situations
that’s self-perpetuating because when you’re in the mode of
surviving, that’s all you’re thinking about. Before you go to
bed you start to worry about, okay, what bills do I have to pay, what
bills haven’t I paid, what are they going to shut off. Your mind
is in constant survival mode. And you need to break them away from
that to ask another question. To break them – you know from that
cycle. And it’s not always easy to do and sometimes it’s not
possible. I have a roommate that loves to say you can lead a man to
knowledge but you cannot make him think.
(laughter)
Lisa: You
know it seems that the worlds’ going down the toilet so fast,
there’s at least one area of somebody’s life that is an opening
for you to start the conversation. And it may be relationships. It
may be finances. It may be the stifled creativity because they hate
their job and it may be any number of things but all of it can relate
to eventually what the fact – the system is the way it si and it’s
all inside out and backwards and upside down. There’s always an
opening. And I want to really thank you Rick, for calling in. I
hate to do it to you because I’m going to have to mute you and move
on because we just have so many people to get to.
Rick: Thank
you.
Lisa: Thanks
so much. Okay, we have area code 661. Area code 661? No one? Area
code 661? Hello.
Caller: hello.
Lisa: Hello.
Yes.
Caller: Sorry.
I called in on Skype so I didn’t know what area code was coming
through, but…
Lisa: Okay.
I’m sorry, what’s your name:
Caller: It’s
Deryl from Canada.
Lisa: Hi
Deryl.
D: Hi
Deryl.
Brian: THE
Deryl from Canada.
Lisa: THE
Deryl. There’s only one Deryl in Canada apparently.
Deryl: So
I just had a question on the courtesy notice, and is the courtesy
notice something that we’re doing in lieu of the full public
disclosure that – of the trust?
Lisa: No,
in addition to.
Deryl: Will
that waive that disclosure.
Chris: I’ll
just make a comment about the courtesy notice because the intent of
the courtesy notice is to give us a mechanism to deflect the old
system as effectively as possible while educating it until that
moment of disclosure of absolute disclosure. Once that takes place
the – again the playing field is going to shift and we may be doing
things quite a different way or we may continue that courtesy notice.
That’s a response to your first question. I’ll let Lisa and
Brian speak to when that might take place.
Lisa: Well
Brian’s probably better to answer that one.
Chris: Because
basically I can’t tell you when that might take place.
Brian: So
the question is when we won’t need the document anymore? I’m
trying to –
Chris: But
you can’t speak to that --
(several
speaking at once)
Bob: When
will absolute disclosure take place?
Brian: Here’s
what I’m told, and I don’t know if it’s, I mean it’s
definitely not the whole story and I don’t know how I could do this
but it sounds more reasonable to me. I’m told that absolute
disclosure and absolute data – I mean we’re in the baby steps of
it right now but everybody’s really what they’re looking forward
to is the floodgate being open. And when it happens I’m told that
it’s going to come in chunks. It’s not like everybody’s going
to turn on the news and Anderson Cooper’s going to be talking about
how September 11 was an inside job. And everything else all, and
OPPT and the foreclosure of the corporate governments, I mean, we’re
not trying to give people heart attacks here but at the same time if
you’re talking about ripping the Band-Aid off then we’re talking
about ripping the Band-Aid off which I think we should trademark that
by the way, “rip the Band-Aid off, tm” so we can stake that, but
the –
D: The
only problem with that darling is that Band-Aid is a brand.
Brian: But
ripping it off is a phrase. (laughs)
Chris: But
Brian the corporations who are competing using branding as a major
tool no longer exists. That whole system is gone.
Brian: Yeah
no more trademark systems, I’ve got to realize the flaw that there
will be no ownership anymore. But you know, I mean that’s
ultimately it’s a great question. I know everybody that’s
listening on this call is wondering the exact same thing, myself
included. I’ve gotten hung up on dates in the past. And for me
personally I’ve come to the conclusion that -- faith that
everything is unfolding as it’s supposed to and in the way that it
was designed to and this is all -- I’ve talked about it before and
it sounds clichĂ© but it’s so by design. You know we’re not
behind on anything. I mean some people looked at December 21, 2012
as being the date where the world changes and the fact of the matter
is the world did change. It just wasn’t visible for everybody
right away. And so it’s one of those things if you asked me my
opinion – I mean I can give you my opinion but don’t get hung up
on my opinion because it is just mine, is I think that we’re in the
– we’re at the final stretch. I think that we’re at the final
stretch right now and I think that February’s going to be a big
month and I think that certain things are going to roll over into
March and March is going to be a big month and every month thereafter
is going to be a big month. I mean this last month -- January was a
huge month for me. And anybody who wants to open their eyes they’ll
realize that a lot was accomplished and once absolute data comes out
and everybody can see the chronological history of events that have
taken place they’ll realize that absolute data is coming out right
now. But what everybody’s looking for is absolute data in the
context of I can go to my neighbor and I can talk to them about it
and they’ll know about it too. That’s what we’re all waiting
for. Personally I feel it’s only a matter of time.
Chris:
Could I throw one thing in there that might illuminate the situation
a bit? I’m going to read a sentence directly out of the
Declaration and Order of Constitution of CVAC government which is one
of the UCC documents up on the site. And it says this. This is in
relation to what they’re listing as four of the fundamental things
that the CVAC’s going to do and #2 is this: And this is in
relation to the, one of the duties of the CVAC. To duly produce
immediate true accurate and complete full disclosure to said states
of body of absolute truth, knowledge and the absolute standing
authority value rights principle of law of said states of body
inclusive of disclosure of UILO.2012 127914 all verified ordinances
therein duly underwritten, etc. and that document is actually the
foreclosure document for the banks that they’re referring to. One
of the things you might look to for an approximate time period is
when the CVACs come online because the CVACs, the public servants in
the CVAC are obliged to attempt to completely fully disclose
everything to everybody. Now that doesn’t mean that the mainstream
media will necessarily jump on board but if we’ve done our homework
and promoted the OPPT to them it’s far more likely to have that
effect and it will depend also on who the people are in the CVAC and
whether their public standing is such that it will command immediate
attention. So in my wildest speculation I’d say look to activation
of CVACs as being a possible time about which that might happen. But
look again. I could be wrong if they work out some completely other
way but it’s actually written into the specs for the CVAC.
Caller: Well
whether it’s the CVAC or the OPPT or whatever it is what it lacks
right now is some credibility from something other than our little
circle of alternative media, right? In other words, somebody gets
the courtesy notice whether it’s the meter reader or whomever
they’re not going to – while that’s being put on notice they’re
not going to know any more that they’re doing anything wrong until
there is something else out there that they can look to that tells
them that they’re doing something wrong. And I think that they’re
more likely to look at you as a nutcase or a slacker who’s trying
to get out of what they perceive is a legitimate obligation and so I
would think in the courtesy notice one thing that you might want to
consider is to have anybody who is providing one of those that they
provide a copy of it to the recipient’s head office, or employer,
or something. I would suggest --
Lisa: That’s
where it needs to end up. At the legal team.
Chris:
Yes that is one of the things that we’re working into the document
as one of the final changes is a request to pass it on to supervisors
and legal advisors within your foreclosed corporation immediately.
It should be made a requirement in there. It needs to move up
through the chain wherever it goes it needs to move around some more
and it needs to find its way into the hands of the most senior
counsel in each organization ASAP.
Brian: So
let me give a quick stat real quick that will paint a pretty vivid
picture here. When we were posting on American Kabuki about a month
ago and I put a post up there to bring some clarity in for people who
were looking for answers. At the time we googled One Peoples Public
Trust and I believe it was 23,000 responses that came back. I’ve
just googled One Peoples Public Trust right now and that 23,000
turned into 33 million. So keep in mind you get 100 pages deep on
this list and it’s going to be things that have peoples and public
and trust in different areas but just that number shooting from
23,000 to 33 million shows that it’s gone up exponentially and
everything that we’re now doing with the press releases is only
going to increase the exposure from there. Because if you’re one
of these employees and you get one of these things and you’ve never
heard about it before you’re first response very well may be this
is baloney. But later on you’re going to get home that night and
you’re going to wonder, is there any legitimacy here? And the
first thing I would probably do, let’s just say one of the first
five things that I’d probably do just to be honest here is I would
go on and I’d Google it. Try to find it and then if there’s a
lot of hits that come back I all of a sudden now, now I have the
ability to start – the trigger has been made in my mind for me to
continue doing my research and doing my homework because ultimately
so many of these people out there are good hearted honest people that
want to know that they want to sleep confidently at night knowing
they have integrity and they did the right thing that day and if I’m
working in a job -- this is just me personally -- but I know that for
every “me” out there there’s millions of others. And I start
to get the sense that something is dishonest at my job I start to
really question what I’m doing and I would want to fix it real
quick. So if we can accomplish that then we’re very much on the
right track.
Bob: Another
thing Deryl I want to speak to. A lot of people are looking for the
official word, or the official acknowledgment and one of the things
that I want to tell everyone, you’ve got to look to yourself
because hope is not enough. Hope – you can be disappointed in your
hope. You’ve got to know –
Brian: Not
our Hope though.
Hope: Thank
you.
D: Don’t
say that about Hope.
Hope: Don’t
give up on Hope.
(laughing)
Bob: That’s
no problem. And yes you should, everyone should have a Hope.
(laughs) But it’s not, you’ve got to know. You’ve got to know
who you are because if you’re looking for an official word you’re
already giving your power away to someone else who has authority to
say that it’s okay for you to be free. And that’s not where
we’re moving into. You know that you’re free because you know
that – I hate being told what to do, I hate being told when to do
it, I make a terrible employee. I know this about myself because I’m
not one of those people who can be contained. And so this is what I
know. I know that I’m free. I know and I don’t need the UCC
filings to tell me. It makes it convenient so that I can communicate
it to other people, but you’ve got to make that shift and a lot of
people who are looking for the official word to come from the very
slave drivers who imprisoned you – that doesn’t make sense to me
and it’s also giving our power away.
Deryl: Yes.
Sharon my wife wanted to make a comment.
Sharon: Just
on that note I’d like to go back to Rick’s question on how we
approach people. Because if we ask people what they think they will
automatically left brain go back to subconscious programming which is
the dark agenda enslavement program programming and they’ll be
looking for ways to validate why they’re in this situation. So we
find if we ask people how they feel about a certain situation or
circumstance that takes them into their right brained heart centered
self and they will start automatically asking questions because it
would be resonating against they don’t like what they’re feeling.
Everybody knows that they’re enslaved. They may not know it
consciously but they certainly know that they’re in survival mode
and they don’t have the answers and so what we’ll find is when we
ask people how they feel about it they will start asking questions
more readily and be more open because they’re not bumping back up
against the subconscious program. So I just wanted to add that.
Brian: Absolutely,
absolutely.
Lisa: Daryl
and wife I want to thank you both for chiming in and we’re going to
have to move on if we’re going to get to these callers. So I’m
going to mute you again. And thank you once again and I believe we
do have, I’m going to see if this is him. Patrick. 716. Patrick?
Do we have you?
Patrick: Hello.
Lisa: Hello,
is this Patrick?
Patrick:
Yes.
Brian: Hey
Patrick.
Lisa: This
is the Patrick connected to the press release, right?
Patrick: Yes,
yes I am.
Lisa: Is
there anything you wanted to say in regards to?
Patrick: I’m
sorry?
Lisa: Was
there anything else you wanted to add in regards to this press
release?
Patrick: Well
just that it’s going out to all the major news services like
Reuters and the Associated Press and a bunch of the web media
outlets. I had put together the package. Basically it’s the
1111.1 announcement, the first part of it up to and including the
facts and data. And then I took the verbiage off the Duly Foreclosed
sign – or slide, sorry. And it says the Hague and the UN and you
know the world bank the IMF and the Bank of International Settlements
have all been foreclosed upon. And that way when it goes out and any
of these large corporations that have legal departments their lawyers
will be able to trace through the facts and data all the UCC numbers
and verify that this is reality.
Lisa: Fabulous.
Thank you very much. Again I’m just going to mute you if that’s
all Patrick and move on. This is too many people to talk to,
unfortunately. We’ve got area code 770. Area code 770? Hello?
770? If you’ve got your hand up and you think that’s you just
say hello.
Chris: And
that may be someone calling from Gmail or Gchat, I think that area
code comes from Google.
Lisa: 770?
Going once, going twice and okay. And we’ve got area code 614.
Area code 614?
Going
once, going twice, okay. And we’ve got area code 832.
Caller
832: Hello.
Lisa: Hello.
Caller
832: Yes.
Lisa: Yay,
we got someone.
Caller
832: Hi.
This is Lisa from Houston Texas.
Lisa: Hi
Lisa from Houston Texas.
Brian: Hi
Lisa.
Lisa
832: Hi.
I’ve never called in. I usually don’t do things like this but
I’m so excited I can’t contain myself.
Lisa: Well
we’re honored.
Lisa
832: I
just wanted first of all to tell you how much I’m in joy and
gratitude for what you guys are doing. I know you have a lot of
callers so I’ll try to make this brief. And I think it’s
actually kind of goes into what the first two callers were talking
about maybe you can see if it is. Awhile back Heather had actually
mentioned that the CVACs are actually going to be needed in physical
locations in different geographic areas for facilitation. And Brian,
you were saying earlier you’re just getting all kinds of offers
from so many different countries. I was wondering if you had thought
of yet, of taking the people who are in a closed geographical area
and trying to put those people together so that we could create a
physical representation for people who have information and they can
see real bodies, tangible avenues of what is going on other than just
alternative media even posting some internet because you know a lot
of times these days people will look at it and say it’s just out
there. It could be real it could not be. But if there was – I’ve
thought about this and I would love to participate in organization
and working with facilitating a group in my local area if there are
other people that are from Houston or the surrounding area. I didn’t
know if you had thought about that. That might take some burden off
of Brian or the people who are trying to sort out this vast project.
That’s all.
Brian: Yes,
I see. I can take that, Lisa. First of all we’ve got two Lisa’s
on the phone now. (laughs) Lisa caller- first of all thank you for
calling in and for your comments. There is actually something that’s
in development that’s going to facilitate what you’re looking for
when we have our main hub up. American Kabuki is working on one
right now. It’s going to be a blog designed to help people connect
in certain areas as well. Until it happens and I know it will happen
quickly because everything seems to be happening quickly these days,
what I would suggest is start a meetup group. And I have a couple
close friends of mine, they host a group, it’s a 2012 awakening
group that they’ve been doing a couple of years now and they host
it at a yoga studio and they meet every week to talk about
developments and spiritual developments and consciousness but you
can, that’s the beauty of meetup because you can make it about
whatever you want and meetup will put people to your group that are
looking for the kind of information that we have to offer but if
that’s not something you’re interested in what you’re looking
for will be available soon because the thing is right now, there’s
people from all over the world listening to this phone call and I’ve
never met Lisa Harrison in person, she’s in Australia, I’m in San
Diego. We talked today but we do so much of our communication, all
of us on Skype but if you’re looking for actual physical contact,
that will be available soon but don’t let us stop you. Meetups is
a great place to go and some more power to you if you can get some
people in your community to gather and have discussions about this
because it’s I mean this is big information and I know there’s
obviously a lot of people that would be interested to hear about it
and to chat with you about it.
Lisa
832: I
see what you’re saying but as far as I’m not really just talking
about people who have heard of and want to participate in OPPT. I’m
thinking of the people who we’re approaching daily and trying to
inform them in the workplace, like the postman, the policeman, the
person on the other end of the phone who’s your mortgage company or
credit card company. The people, your neighbors who have never heard
a thing about this and those are the people – my husband is like
it, unless he can see it and taste it and touch it and he can go to
it, it’s just out there in the ethers until he can actually see
something. I’m talking about a – and I know this is down the
road but with all of the people who are contacting you and I know
there’s a hub and maybe we will have to wait for that but I am
willing to even donate a space.
Caller-Lisa:
I
see what you’re saying but I’m not really just talking about
people who have heard of and want to participate in OPPT. I’m
thinking of the people who we’re approaching daily … trying to
inform them, in the workplace, the postman, the policeman, the person
on the other end of the phone who is your mortgage company or credit
card company. The people … your neighbors who’ve never heard a
thing about this. Those are the people. My husband is like “Unless
he can see it, and taste it and touch it and he can go to it, it’s
just out there in the ethers.” Until he can actually see something.
I’m talking about, and I know this is down the road, but with all
the people who are contacting you, and I know there’s a hub and
maybe we’ll have to wait for that. I am willing to even donate a
space, a place for people to come to that could actually be a
facilitation location for the postman to actually check out. Yes,
these things are up and running. It’s ground roots, it’s just
getting started, but here you go. That’s all. I’m a loner in
this, in my world. I don’t know of one person around me who would
be an OPPT person that would do this with me at this time. Would the
people that are communicating with you…
Lisa:
You
just never know who you’re going to find if you stick a flyer up on
your local café wall where you can put up notices or at your local
library. Stick up some flyers…
Lisa:
Here’s
the other thing…
Brian:
Go
ahead.
Lisa:
If
you put the information that is really relevant on there, then people
who do know what you’re saying will respond. If you were to just
put ‘One People’s Public Trust Meeting’, then the people who
know what that means will show up. The people who find that
interesting will show up.
Brian:
Lisa,
also this press release that I’ve … technically it’s out there
today. If you go to Removing the Shackles, it’s out there now.
Caller-Lisa:
I’ve
already posted it on my local Craigslist. I do that now and to me …
Brian:
So
that’s a good intro… What you have remember too Lisa, cause there
is a lot of, I’m talking to you now Lisa, but there is a lot Lisa’s
listening in on this call, that feel the exact same way, so I’m
really talking to everybody “The awareness raises for this, the
energy, it shifts to a place that will create a much more suitable
space for you to be able to do these things.” That’s what we’re
doing now, because as we raise awareness, and more people find out
about it, then the interest level and the audience and the
demographic of those following this information increases
exponentially, there’s only going to be more and more of a demand
to put into practice what it is that you’re talking about. We’re
getting there. We’re much farther along than we were a month ago.
Imagine where we’ll be in the next few weeks.
Caller-Lisa:
I
know. I’m feeling the energy. It’s like blowing out of me, so I
had to call in. But listen, I know you’ve got a lot of other phones
calls, and I love all of you. I’m so grateful. Brian I sent you an
email. I’m the photographer/accountant/jack of all trades, so
that’s me. Know that I am ready to start in any way. I thank you
all so very much.
Brian:
Thank
you Lisa, we love you too.
Caller-Lisa:
Thank
you. Alright, bye-bye.
Brian:
Bye.
Caller:
Are ya’ll looking for 276?
(some
talkover)
Caller:
What’s up brother? How are you doing?
Chris:
That
must be Pete from Suijuris.me.
Pete:
No, no, we changed the name to protect the innocent. We’re
Privatis.me, we weren’t private.
Chris:
Yep,
thanks for correcting.
Pete:
It’s alright. Hey I love what I’m hearing. This is beautiful.
Chris:
Can
I ask you this question to you? You got the memo. You’ve got the
memo.
Pete:
Oh I’ve been beating the brakes off the memo for 25 years.
(laughter)
Pete:
As a matter of fact that’s why I set up a private meeting place for
the minds to actually get their minds right. Effectively, that’s
why I set up Privatis.me. Anybody can go there, it’s free and it’s
beautiful. We’re really sharing the truth at a different level. I
do two Blogtalks a week on Tuesday and Saturdays with Freedom Reigns,
with my producer. I’m bringing forward the collective shift best I
can. I’m but one man. Michael and I, we’re sort of the deeper
thinkers. We bring them information, we bring them truth, we bring
them substance so that they can actually grab onto and see it and
then know that “Hey, see this has been a big illusion”. We help
them take off those rose-colored glasses and help them move forward
on a whole different level. That’s what we do.
Chris:
Pete,
have you read the One People’s Trust documents said?
Pete:
I sure have.
Chris:
How
did you like it?
Pete:
I liked them. Yup, I understand them. As a matter of fact I’ve
posted with Heather a couple times. She posted back with me in an
email, but I’d definitely like to get some face-time with her and
share what we can move to help move forward. I loved what you all are
doing and what she’s done. I think there’s more ways to skin a
cat. I’d like to give her my little collective input and see what
we can’t do because this is where we all come together with our
collective minds. I don’t know it all, but hey, I know a couple
things. I can share the love and that where I live brother.
Brian:
We’ll
I know it sounds gross, but we love skinning cats my man.
(laughter)
Pete:
Yeah, I’ve got three in the house you can have.
Lisa:
Is
there anything that you wanted to present to the crew and all?
Pete:
Well I just wanted to share, to help pull some of the sled, I just
want to do is “Hey, for those that are in to the shift, come over
to Privatis.me. It’s posted on Blogtalk as well, because there’s
a plethora of excellent information, eye opening information. It’s
all free over there on those portals, with educational information.”
I talk about big pharma, big medical, the whole system on how it’s
tied in, the bonds, basically to sort of pull back the curtains. If
you’re living in a false paradigm, and no one’s ever told you, or
could prove to you or show you what’s gone on then you can’t
change and shift. It’s educational, and what you guys are doing is
educational. This where were we all pull together. I don’t have any
questions. I’m just trying to share some of the love.
Lisa:
Okay
great, thank you Pete.
Pete:
You’re welcome.
Lisa:
For
those of you who need an extra resource in terms of educating people
who may be in a state of disbelief about how the system actually is,
then Pete’s website is a great one for that. Thank you Peter . I’m
just going to mute you again and we’ll move onto the next caller.
Thank you.
Santos:
Hey
Lisa, before you do can I just ask that Francesca and Elgenio say
“Hi”. I want folks to know…
Lisa:
I
can’t find them.
Santos:
They’ll
be on the line. They’re in the queue waiting.
Lisa:
There’s
a lot of other people. I don’t know how to identify them.
Santos:
They’ve
come through like I have, on the panel.
Lisa:
Yeah,
as have 20 other people. I just don’t know how to identify them.
Santos:
No
worries. I’ll find out how to do that. I’d like for them to say
“hello” so that people know who they are. They are pretty much
the most prominent members of the group in Italy at the moment.
Lisa:
If
you can give me an area code that’d be great.
Bob:
If they hit “1” they can raise their hand.
Santos:
0-5-5.
055 from Francesca and Elgenio is... so you got that, 055?
Lisa:
No.
Santos:
Okay.
Well anyway. That’s what you’re looking for.
Lisa:
Yeah,
it’s not there. Sometimes people think their number is their area
code is something that shows up as something else. I’ve got no 055.
Santos:
Okay
she’s got 0-0-3-9-0-5-5. Never mind.
Lisa:
I’ll
quickly work through the list and see if I can find her.
Santos:
I
just wanted people to know that they’re there, that’s all.
Lisa:
We
do have someone here. It sounds like you have a noisy background,
205.
Caller:
Oh yes, sorry, hi! Can you hear me?
Lisa:
Yes
I can. What was your name?
Caller:
Oh sorry I had the radio on. I’m Jennifer.
Lisa:
Jennifer.
Hi Jennifer.
Jennifer:
Hi!
Hey you guys! Oh my gosh. It is so awesome to talk to all of you.
I’ve been following this stuff for such a long time. I’ve
followed all of this stuff for such a long time and it’s just the
most amazing thing to watch it unfold. I have a question for all of
you that no one seems to have sort of proposed yet with regard to the
contracts themselves: I was curious if any of you on the panel know
anything about quantum grammar?
Lisa:
You
mean David Wynn Miller?
Jennifer:
Yes
I am and I’m just curious about the aspects of this knowledge in
terms of trying to understand more of … because this boils down to
contract.
Lisa:
(giggle)
I’m not going there… I’m leaving that one.
Chris:
Was
it Jennifer?
Jennifer:
Yes.
Chris:
Jennifer
look, I’ve actually been thinking about David Wynn Miller’s
quantum grammar techniques and one of the things about it, and I
haven’t made up my mind how relevant it is to bring that technology
forward into the paradigm we’re shifting into, to be honest.
Jennifer:
Okay.
Chris:
It’s
based on an absolute interpretation of the grammatical structure of
the English language and its use in the legal system. Now the legal
system has just been completely removed off the playing field. Whilst
I acknowledge that within that original legal language, based around
English, quantum grammar is actually a very powerful way of ensuring
communication, is like an incoming arrow, it always penetrates its
target. In the context that we’re moving into, is that necessarily
what we want? Is it absolutely necessary? One of the stipulations in
the CVAC is that it’s supposed to simplify and unify the lawful
structures.
Lisa:
And
no more legalese.
Chris:
No
more legalese. Whilst it is a valid way of making our communications
incredibly precise, whether it flows in the legal use, or if it’s
just something that where elements of it get used in how language is
taught in the future, I don’t know. It’s very much a question
mark for me. I acknowledge its effectiveness in the old system, but
that’s actually not where we’re going and we need to evaluate
stuff that we bring forward.
Jennifer:
Well
yes actually, point very well taken because that’s sort of my
sticking point. It’s like in terms of my understanding of the whole
thing, and in terms of like “Okay, I’m going to file UCC, a
financial statement. That’s old paradigm.” There is this hope
mentioned, this transitional period where we sort of, there is this
aspect of having to do that, of having to sort of somewhat be in the
old paradigm. If it is just about just using the mathematical formula
to put on to the language so that we can learn how not to be
deceived, in our future contracts, because we’re going to continue
to make contracts with each other. I mean until we become telepathic.
Chris:
That’s
right. That’s absolutely right. That’s also an aspect of the CVAC
stuff which we’ll gradually move into over the next few weeks, we
hope. That there is a facility for contract provided that it’s not
done for self-interests, and to the detriment of others. There will
still be contract, but what form it is we don’t know yet.
Lisa:
I
think what they could be able to be is each of us has our own form of
code of conduct. We each have our own… yeah I guess a code of
conduct. It’s on paper and it says “If you’re going to deal
with me, this is what you can expect, and if I’m going to deal with
you, this is what I expect from you, as it belongs to me.” So that
if you’re going to deal with me in this context…
Jennifer:
I
do understand that, and again I do understand that too. As I think
Bob was saying “The speaking part for me is that, apparently we
“normal” people do that now when we enter into agreements with
others, doing that now but the legal documents are drawn up that we
don’t understand when we read them”. We will, until we become
telepathic, have to make contracts with others.
Chris:
Yeah
look, I do acknowledge that is could have value, but I can’t answer
as to absolutely whether we’ll use it. It’s something that we
should consider on the way through. One of the things you have to
realize is that we get to choose what happens next from this point.
Jennifer:
Absolutely.
Chris:
One
of the interesting things about the CVAC discussion we’ve having
tomorrow is what the gentleman brought down was that the whole
situation remains in a state of flux for a very long time, where
everything gets reviewed on an approximately 3 month cycle.
Everything that’s going on around, every contract, arrangement, so
that we can stay in a state of flux. We’re going to have decision
after decision to make, as a worldwide community sometimes, and as
local communities a lot of the time. It’s just going to be this
constant moving forward and developing. What you’re talking about I
know will play into it, but we just don’t know how that all looks
like until we’re in it.
Jennifer:
Certainly
I can appreciate that. Well I hadn’t heard anyone talking about
this specific thing and since we do still function with language
until all of us…
Chris:
Well
when we’re telepathic there’ll be no secrets.
Jennifer:
Right.
This would be a non-issue, but we’re not there yet. I’m sort of
thinking “Well exponentiation being what is, I don’t know how
quickly it might happen, but I could also visualize that it could be
years before we’ve actually made that switch.” Language will be
necessary in that time. It was just a question that’s still there
for me, in terms of how it’ll play out. I appreciate you
understanding my point and addressing it.
Lisa:
Thank
you Jennifer.
Chris:
We’re
all in that same place. We’ve got a foot in each camp.
Jennifer:
(laughter)
Absolutely. Peace to all of you and continue with the “Light
bearing”.
Lisa:
Thank
you and you too Jennifer. We’ll talk soon.
Brian:
Thanks
Jennifer.
Lisa:
Okay
guys we’ve only got 5 minutes left. I don’t think we’ve got
time for any more callers, which is really unfortunate because there
are so many of you … hopefully next week, or tomorrow. Last things,
just as a reminder, we’ve got the Collective Imagination show
tomorrow. If you haven’t already, go to The Collective Imagination
page on Facebook and “Like” it so that you can stay up to day on
when that show is and where to find. It is here on Blogtalk. You can
look it up under “The Collective Imagination” or under “5D
Media Network”. Go to the OPPT IN Facebook page. Add your
photograph. Go to the OPPT OUT Facebook page. Come up with some
fabulous creative ideas for opting out of the current system. Join us
tomorrow on The Collective Imagination for our “Live Flash Mob”,
which will be an online Facebook flash mob. I think that’s it. Go
to Removing the Shackles for the press release that is already out
there. Keep your eye on the OPPT IN, O-P-P-T hyphen IN website
(www.oppt-in.com). When the
document that Chris is talking about is absolutely finalized and
ready for release, that’ll be the first place it goes. It will get
linked from there to other affiliated websites. Anything else? I’m
going to say my goodbyes and hand it over to the other people on the
panel, say their last goodbyes and any last comments.
Chris:
Thanks
everybody for listening in. It’s great to talk to all of you. I’m
not sure how many are out there but tune back in next week because
this is going to be an ongoing process. Thank you for your time and
energy.
Brian:
Cool.
I’ll jump in real quick. If anybody wants to find the actual
scribed version of the press release that they can share, it’s
going to be on Facebook. We’ll put it on your Facebook but it’s
also, if you want to go “Scribd.”, it’s
www.scribd.com/doc/123830459/OPPT-Press-Release.
It’s kind of a mouthful, but between there and Removing the
Shackles and then on Facebook. I actually, real quick, in closing
from Deryl “300-400 media outlets have already received it and it’s
going into be reviewed for the banking section, business section,
technology section, finance, social, legal and government. The hope
is that a 3-10% hit rate is good.” Keep an eye on the PR web for
tomorrow. Thank you for everyone listening and feel free to share
this call far and wide. We need everybody to step up and share this
in order for us to really continue the traction that we have. I look
forward to…
Lisa:
60
seconds!
Brian:
Yep.
I look forward to talking to everybody again next week. Have a great
night.
Lisa:
Thank
you. And Bob?
Bob:
I just want to say to everyone “Spread the word” Let’s keep
this momentum going. Things are moving exponentially quick. We’ll
share it as quickly as we can, so please stay tuned in.
Lisa:
Okay,
D had to say goodbye already. She had to leave us so I’m saying
goodbye on behalf of D. Hopegirl, you still there?
Hopegirl:
I’m still here. I just want to let everybody know that we have a
new website; fixtheworldproject.org. Please look into that and thanks
so much for having me.
Lisa:
fixtheworldproject.org.
Lovely. Quick shout out to American Kabuki, I believe he was out
there listening, so he could join us. To Santos, thank you very much.
To Deatra, from Freedom Reigns, thank you so much for giving us this
time to do this. Once again guys, tune in tomorrow for the Collective
Imagination and same time, same bat channel next Monday night. See
you then! Bye for now.
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